Pigskin Navy Holster Project

lugerholsterrepair · 08-25-2002, 11:07 PM

wterrell · 08-25-2002, 11:34 PM

Very nice!

Johnny Peppers · 08-26-2002, 12:28 AM

lhr,
A friend bought a nice LP08 pigskin holster in the original tan color at the Tulsa show a couple of years back.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-28-2002, 11:35 PM

Finished Product! For my personal collection.
Jerry Burney

wterrell · 08-28-2002, 11:38 PM

Jerry,
What price would you ask to reproduce a period holster in pigskin for a 1900 commercial?

Ron Wood · 08-29-2002, 01:31 AM

Gentlemen (and possibly ladies):
You have just witnessed the genesis of a work of art! Nice job Jerry. I am dumbfounded. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Edward Tinker · 08-29-2002, 01:54 AM

Sweet Pigskin Holster!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Luke · 08-29-2002, 11:09 AM

Really nice work, Jerry.

Luke

Hugh · 08-29-2002, 11:56 AM

Beautiful work, Jerry. Ready to tackle one in Alligator or Armadillo, now? [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

lugerholsterrepair · 08-29-2002, 04:00 PM

Gentlemen, Thank you all for your kind comments. I do appreciate them.

Wes, The problem I have in re-creating a 1900 holster for you is at least twofold. I have no pattern from which to work so the project would be more difficult and less acurate than I would desire. The accuracy issue is foremost in my mind as all the work I do must at least approximate if not duplicate actual dimensions in all respects and use period methods of construction. The second part of this problem which pretty much precludes the first, is cost. Providing that I could come by actual measurements and perhaps hold an actual period holster in my hands the cost of duplicating a holster like this is high because of all the time involved. I was asked to make two baby Luger holsters last year and did so for two clients. The holsters were each different in size to fit different pistols. One Army and one Police. Each one took me over ten days to build. Not full time days of course but none the less it was quite a bit of time. I charged $600.00 for each. While this seems wildly expensive, even to me, I charged it because of the extreme time involved in building the molds and forms necessary to make a completely custom, smaller than normal, Luger holster. The two clients who purchased these were happy to get them as the pistols they plan to put into them cost $2000.00 and up and as far as I know I am the only person in the World who is willing to make Baby Luger holsters. I would look around and see if any commercial company is offering the holster you want in a reproduction model. That would be the cheapest route, if any are offered.

Hugh, I don't use any of the leathers you suggest because I have to shoot holes in them for my thread and the ammunition costs were getting out of hand...I'll bet you have ample acccess to armadillo in your neck of the woods!
Jerry Burney

G.T. · 08-29-2002, 06:52 PM

Hi Jerry! Outstanding work of art! Outstanding!!! till...later...G.T. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

lugerholsterrepair · 08-29-2002, 08:07 PM

G.T., Thank you very much. I am anxious to put together this rig with the beautiful magazine bottoms you are making for me. I am making a Navy double magazine pouch out of pigskin to go with the whole thing. Two of your mag bottoms in the pouch and one in the pistol. Ought to look nice no? I will post photo's of the mag pouch with the new mag bottoms when it is all together...Thanks again. Jerry Burney

Heinz · 08-29-2002, 08:36 PM

Wonderful craftmanship.

John Sabato · 08-30-2002, 10:20 AM

Jerry would grace us with photos of his mistakes... but I don't think he has made any [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

REALLY Nice work Jerry!

lugerholsterrepair · 08-30-2002, 10:53 AM

John, Heinz, Thank you both. And John, think again! I have made many mistakes! I have a pile of unuseable parts that I have screwed up and are no good. Disapointing when you put so many hours into a piece and have to throw it away. It does happen, even to the best of us! I bet if you talk to any of the craftsmen who do work that is hand made like Hugh or G.T. or Thor they have stories to tell of mistakes...Jerry Burney

John Sabato · 08-30-2002, 11:21 AM

Jerry,

You obviously missed the grinning face at the end of my statement about making mistakes [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

I have an Uncle that once told me that he had a lot of faults, but making mistakes isn't one of them [img]biggrin.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

G.T. · 08-30-2002, 08:30 PM

An expert in anything, is someone who can fix his (and sometimes his best friends) screw ups!! I have tons of sawdust that went for naught!! I'm better now, only ruin about half!! Till...later...G.T. BTW, Jerry, I'm cutting the rings on your navy bottoms tomorrow!!! [img]wink.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

lugerholsterrepair · 08-31-2002, 12:02 AM

John, Yes I know you were kidding!

G.T. Whoopee! Shouldn't be more than a coupla more months huh? Take your time my friend. I will be happy to get them whenever you get them ready. Thanks...Jerry

G.T. · 08-31-2002, 02:01 PM

Yup! The temp in my garage is down to a comfortable 102% .... Perfect for wood working! Actually it has been pretty decent here and I been spending more & more time, evenings, working on some of these outstanding projects.... from Sept on, I should be good to go till spring! BTW I cut the rings last night! These are going to be neat! They are from a dark old, oil soaked, Mauser stock! All down hill from here! [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] Till ....lat....GT <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

Ron Wood · 09-01-2002, 10:31 PM

Jerry,
You are really going to like these magazine bottoms...the wood looks terrific and the rings came out perfect! G.T. would probably be a lot further along but I dropped by his house on Saturday and imposed on his hospitality for over two hours. As you well know, I have this habit of dropping in on people whenever I go somewhere. Had a great time, G.T. and Carol are lovely people, but my visit halted any work that he was doing. Sorry! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

08-25-2002, 11:07 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Pigskin Navy Holster Project __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-25-2002, 11:34 PM	#2
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Very nice! __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

08-28-2002, 11:35 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Finished Product! For my personal collection. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-28-2002, 11:38 PM	#5
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jerry, What price would you ask to reproduce a period holster in pigskin for a 1900 commercial? __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

08-29-2002, 01:31 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Gentlemen (and possibly ladies): You have just witnessed the genesis of a work of art! Nice job Jerry. I am dumbfounded. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-26-2002, 12:28 AM	#3
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	lhr, A friend bought a nice LP08 pigskin holster in the original tan color at the Tulsa show a couple of years back.

08-29-2002, 01:54 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Sweet Pigskin Holster! <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-29-2002, 11:09 AM	#8
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Really nice work, Jerry. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

08-29-2002, 11:56 AM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Beautiful work, Jerry. Ready to tackle one in Alligator or Armadillo, now? [img]biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-29-2002, 04:00 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Gentlemen, Thank you all for your kind comments. I do appreciate them. Wes, The problem I have in re-creating a 1900 holster for you is at least twofold. I have no pattern from which to work so the project would be more difficult and less acurate than I would desire. The accuracy issue is foremost in my mind as all the work I do must at least approximate if not duplicate actual dimensions in all respects and use period methods of construction. The second part of this problem which pretty much precludes the first, is cost. Providing that I could come by actual measurements and perhaps hold an actual period holster in my hands the cost of duplicating a holster like this is high because of all the time involved. I was asked to make two baby Luger holsters last year and did so for two clients. The holsters were each different in size to fit different pistols. One Army and one Police. Each one took me over ten days to build. Not full time days of course but none the less it was quite a bit of time. I charged $600.00 for each. While this seems wildly expensive, even to me, I charged it because of the extreme time involved in building the molds and forms necessary to make a completely custom, smaller than normal, Luger holster. The two clients who purchased these were happy to get them as the pistols they plan to put into them cost $2000.00 and up and as far as I know I am the only person in the World who is willing to make Baby Luger holsters. I would look around and see if any commercial company is offering the holster you want in a reproduction model. That would be the cheapest route, if any are offered. Hugh, I don't use any of the leathers you suggest because I have to shoot holes in them for my thread and the ammunition costs were getting out of hand...I'll bet you have ample acccess to armadillo in your neck of the woods! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-29-2002, 06:52 PM	#11
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Hi Jerry! Outstanding work of art! Outstanding!!! till...later...G.T. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

08-29-2002, 08:07 PM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	G.T., Thank you very much. I am anxious to put together this rig with the beautiful magazine bottoms you are making for me. I am making a Navy double magazine pouch out of pigskin to go with the whole thing. Two of your mag bottoms in the pouch and one in the pistol. Ought to look nice no? I will post photo's of the mag pouch with the new mag bottoms when it is all together...Thanks again. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-29-2002, 08:36 PM	#13
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	Wonderful craftmanship.

08-30-2002, 10:20 AM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Jerry would grace us with photos of his mistakes... but I don't think he has made any [img]biggrin.gif[/img] REALLY Nice work Jerry! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-30-2002, 10:53 AM	#15
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	John, Heinz, Thank you both. And John, think again! I have made many mistakes! I have a pile of unuseable parts that I have screwed up and are no good. Disapointing when you put so many hours into a piece and have to throw it away. It does happen, even to the best of us! I bet if you talk to any of the craftsmen who do work that is hand made like Hugh or G.T. or Thor they have stories to tell of mistakes...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-30-2002, 11:21 AM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Jerry, You obviously missed the grinning face at the end of my statement about making mistakes [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] I have an Uncle that once told me that he had a lot of faults, but making mistakes isn't one of them [img]biggrin.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-30-2002, 08:30 PM	#17
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	An expert in anything, is someone who can fix his (and sometimes his best friends) screw ups!! I have tons of sawdust that went for naught!! I'm better now, only ruin about half!! Till...later...G.T. BTW, Jerry, I'm cutting the rings on your navy bottoms tomorrow!!! [img]wink.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

08-31-2002, 12:02 AM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	John, Yes I know you were kidding! G.T. Whoopee! Shouldn't be more than a coupla more months huh? Take your time my friend. I will be happy to get them whenever you get them ready. Thanks...Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-31-2002, 02:01 PM	#19
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Yup! The temp in my garage is down to a comfortable 102% .... Perfect for wood working! Actually it has been pretty decent here and I been spending more & more time, evenings, working on some of these outstanding projects.... from Sept on, I should be good to go till spring! BTW I cut the rings last night! These are going to be neat! They are from a dark old, oil soaked, Mauser stock! All down hill from here! [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] Till ....lat....GT <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

09-01-2002, 10:31 PM	#20
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Jerry, You are really going to like these magazine bottoms...the wood looks terrific and the rings came out perfect! G.T. would probably be a lot further along but I dropped by his house on Saturday and imposed on his hospitality for over two hours. As you well know, I have this habit of dropping in on people whenever I go somewhere. Had a great time, G.T. and Carol are lovely people, but my visit halted any work that he was doing. Sorry! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction