New Owner (again)

05-08-2001, 12:18 AM

Had a 9 mm Luger in another lifetime when I was stationed in Germany. Don't want to go into all the details of how I lost it. Just bought a .22 cal Stoeger Luger at a local gun show. How can I trace the history of this particular weapon, find current replacement parts/prices, etc.? The original parts list that is with the gun has prices which make me think it's pretty old. Also, the serial number is rather small: #58377. Any Help?

05-08-2001, 11:30 PM

Thanx for the hint about Numerich Gun Parts Co., Rick W., but does that mean Stoeger is out of business?? Does anyone have a website or snail-mail address for Numerich?

05-08-2001, 11:44 PM

Hi Richard, I'm not much good at Luger history but I can get the address you need. Numrich web site is: e-gunparts.com and their snail mail Address is:226 Williams Lane PO Box 299 West Hurley, NY 12491.

Phone #845-679-2417

Hope this helps.

BobL

05-09-2001, 11:51 AM

I spent several hours on the net trying to track down Stoeger a couple of months ago. Don't take this as the final word, but I think Stoeger is out of the gun business. I found a Stoeger Industries Inc. with a New Jersey address close to the old one for Stoeger, but they were strictly dealing w/industrial equipment. At one time Stoeger was associated with AIMCO, the only manufacturer making new Lugers I know of. But that relationship ended in 95-96 and AIMCO is now on its own. AIMCO only makes new stainless steel lugers and as I understand the parts are not inchangeable. As the guys are saying, if you need parts, go to the forum links.

05-09-2001, 02:31 PM

Richard, I kinda lost sight of the fact you're looking for Stoeger .22 parts, so the forum links don't apply. I think Robert gave you best advise pointing you towards Numrich. I can tell that Stoeger never actually made Lugers. They were the US distributor for DWM. I suspect they didn't produce the Stoeger .22 either. One the real collectors on this forum can probably give you the full and true history of this particular model.

Kyrie · 05-09-2001, 04:02 PM

Hi Richard,

Stoeger handled two variations of .22 'Lugers.' The earliest of these were made here in the US and were all steel in construction. This didn't last long, and these pistols are quite rare. The most common of the Stoeger .22 'Lugers' were made by ERMA. There were several ERMA variations on this basic theme imported and sold by Stoeger. The most common of these is the Model "LA 22" (one of these is pictured in the Owners' Corner", under Kyrie) and the least common is the long barreled "carbine version."

I regret to say that, for the most part, these ERMA .22 Luger look-a-likes were one short step above junk, with pot metal frames and only the breechblock, barrel liner, and small parts made of steel. Part breakage was more common than not and it is said of these pistols there were two kinds of owners; those looking for parts and those who would be looking for parts :-(

I'm afraid I cannot help with parts. ERMA is out of business, and due to the high demand for replacement parts, replacement parts can be hard to find. Gun Parts Corporation (aka Numrich Arms) is likely your best bet.

I hope this helps, and I am sincerely sorry I could not be more positive about the ERMA pistols.

Best regards,

Kyrie

Hugh · 05-09-2001, 07:21 PM

There have been and still are lots of parts for Stoeger 22 Lugers on Auction Arms, Gun Broker & ebay.

05-08-2001, 12:18 AM	#1
Richard Clay Guest Posts: n/a	New Owner (again) Had a 9 mm Luger in another lifetime when I was stationed in Germany. Don't want to go into all the details of how I lost it. Just bought a .22 cal Stoeger Luger at a local gun show. How can I trace the history of this particular weapon, find current replacement parts/prices, etc.? The original parts list that is with the gun has prices which make me think it's pretty old. Also, the serial number is rather small: #58377. Any Help?

05-08-2001, 11:30 PM	#2
Richard Clay Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Owner (again) Thanx for the hint about Numerich Gun Parts Co., Rick W., but does that mean Stoeger is out of business?? Does anyone have a website or snail-mail address for Numerich?

05-08-2001, 11:44 PM	#3
Robert E. Lipps Guest Posts: n/a	Numrich Address Hi Richard, I'm not much good at Luger history but I can get the address you need. Numrich web site is: e-gunparts.com and their snail mail Address is:226 Williams Lane PO Box 299 West Hurley, NY 12491. Phone #845-679-2417 Hope this helps. BobL

05-09-2001, 11:51 AM	#4
Roger Seymour Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Owner (again) I spent several hours on the net trying to track down Stoeger a couple of months ago. Don't take this as the final word, but I think Stoeger is out of the gun business. I found a Stoeger Industries Inc. with a New Jersey address close to the old one for Stoeger, but they were strictly dealing w/industrial equipment. At one time Stoeger was associated with AIMCO, the only manufacturer making new Lugers I know of. But that relationship ended in 95-96 and AIMCO is now on its own. AIMCO only makes new stainless steel lugers and as I understand the parts are not inchangeable. As the guys are saying, if you need parts, go to the forum links.

05-09-2001, 04:02 PM	#6
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Stoeger 22 'Lugers' Hi Richard, Stoeger handled two variations of .22 'Lugers.' The earliest of these were made here in the US and were all steel in construction. This didn't last long, and these pistols are quite rare. The most common of the Stoeger .22 'Lugers' were made by ERMA. There were several ERMA variations on this basic theme imported and sold by Stoeger. The most common of these is the Model "LA 22" (one of these is pictured in the Owners' Corner", under Kyrie) and the least common is the long barreled "carbine version." I regret to say that, for the most part, these ERMA .22 Luger look-a-likes were one short step above junk, with pot metal frames and only the breechblock, barrel liner, and small parts made of steel. Part breakage was more common than not and it is said of these pistols there were two kinds of owners; those looking for parts and those who would be looking for parts :-( I'm afraid I cannot help with parts. ERMA is out of business, and due to the high demand for replacement parts, replacement parts can be hard to find. Gun Parts Corporation (aka Numrich Arms) is likely your best bet. I hope this helps, and I am sincerely sorry I could not be more positive about the ERMA pistols. Best regards, Kyrie

05-09-2001, 02:31 PM	#5
Roger Seymour Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New Owner (again again) Richard, I kinda lost sight of the fact you're looking for Stoeger .22 parts, so the forum links don't apply. I think Robert gave you best advise pointing you towards Numrich. I can tell that Stoeger never actually made Lugers. They were the US distributor for DWM. I suspect they didn't produce the Stoeger .22 either. One the real collectors on this forum can probably give you the full and true history of this particular model.

05-09-2001, 07:21 PM	#7
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Re: Stoeger 22 'Lugers' There have been and still are lots of parts for Stoeger 22 Lugers on Auction Arms, Gun Broker & ebay.