Is this mag correct?

[Tony S.]

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The only thing on the mag is the "Haenel Schmeisser Patent" words. I could not find any Eagles or other markings. The bottom is as pictured. It looks like a Type IV Police mag, but I had the impression that they were blued. Any ideas?
Thanks, Tony

[John Sabato]

this is a correct Haenel Schmeisser police mag... they are virtually identical to the blued FXO type of extruded mag but are NOT blued.

They are a super quality magazine... very reliable.

Nice photos by the way!

[Vlim]

Hi,

Maybe it's the flash from the camera, but it looks like it's partially repainted?

[Tony S.]

Thanks for the info. It appears to be all original condition. It looks almost new, that is why I was wondering.
Thanks, Tony

[policeluger]

Tony....I have several like it, it is as good as it get.

[MauserLugers]

In my opinion this magazine is NOT CORRECT. The center pinned Haenel Schmeisser's with a side logo are to my knowledge have a blue'd magazine body and are convex pinned. Haenel Schmeisser did not pin these nickel side logo'd in this manner, but pinned them on the end, not the center. -- Bill

[Lonnie Zimmerman]

Bill; I have 2 nickle and 1 blued, and they are pinned as you discribe. Good eye.
Lonnie

[policeluger]

Bill, I have several HS mags pinned as shown in Tony's picture above, all police with either a 1 or 2 above or below SN....I have no reason to believe they are not correct. I have no reference at this time too back up that this is an original clip, but can not find any thing saying they are not original...

[Lugerdoc]

Bill, This style HS PO8 mag came first in nickel and then blued. The only thing that I might question of the mag shown is that the pin holding on the bottom piece is a bit off center, which is typical of DDR replacement bottoms, which are also police numbered 1 or 2. I'd look closely at the crimp of BOTH ends of the pin, if they are both properly flared out, this is probably the original preWW2 bottom, if not ? TH

[MauserLugers]

I do not feel this magazine is original or correct and here are my thoughts on it. To my knowledge this type of magazine, ( square cut on the bottom and pinned in the center) will only have a blued magazine base and are convex pinned. The blank blued tubes without a logo can have either a convex pin or a concav rivot.

The HS magazines that I have and have looked at are the nickel spine marked, the nickel side logo, and third the nickel side logo with an E/L. All are pinned on the end, not the center. Then the blue body side logo with convex center pin, and then the no logo blue body with either a convex or concav pin. I am not aware of a nickel center pinned variation.

The nickel side logo with an E/L are a unique style of magazine due to the magazine body being made like the blue body side logo magazines, except they are not square cut on the bottom and are pinned on the end, not center pinned.

Again, I am not aware of a variation of HS magazines that are nickel side logo's with a center pin. The magazine in question in this thread has been made to this configuration and is not a standard, as issued magazine. Look on pg 172 of Third Reich Lugers for 4 variations. Compare the end pin and the square cut center pin. -- Bill

[Edward Tinker]

Bill, I am asking a SWAG, but do you think that bottoms would be changed at an armorery?

My gut feeling is that an armorery would just replace a magazine, instead of a base?

[MauserLugers]

Again, in my opinion, the magazine in question was originally a blued body magazine. Why would an armorery polish it to nickel? Again, anything is possible, but usually things went in a certain order. For instance, if the magazine in question was to be original it would have a convex pin and not a later rivot. The order that magazines were pinned went was from side pinned to square cut center pinned with a convex pin, and then the rivot center pin came last. So the whole magazine is out of the correct time frame with a nickel body, square cut, center rivot.

[Lugerdoc]

Perhaps we can get an opinion from Don Hallock, the PO8 mag guru, or Jan Still since I know that I've seen several of these nickeled center pinned extruded Police mags in the past. TH

[John Sabato]

I know that I have seen too many of these types of mags in the last couple of years auctioned on eBay for them to be unique... and not always in the best of condition either... so I don't think there would be much to gain by "creating" them from some other type like the FXO mags. They normally sell in the same price range as the FXO blued type.

In the last 5 years I have learned that I can put a lot of faith in MauserLuger's opinion, but I sure would like to hear anything that Jan Still might have to say on this matter, or better yet Don Hallock, since his focus is primarily magazines.