Dream fulfilled!! Finally, I have a Borchardt !!

[CASTELLANO]

Finally, I have a Borchardt !!

Loewe

[DonVoigt]

Congratulations.
Looks like a super example.

[hayhugh]

We know that you are happy, but give us more detail so that we can experience something that will never happen to us....

[Ron Wood]

Well, it's about time you finally got around to it... Congratulations! I am very happy for you. A Borchardt was one of my collecting goals also, and I had been collecting for probably close to 30 years before I finally landed mine.
Ron

[rpbcps]

There is a dealer in the UK, who has a Borchardt for sale. He has had it listed on his website for over two years now, but I am not surprised, as it is a very pricey deactivation, (Dewat), £17,995.

https://mjlmilitaria.com/extremely-r...hardt-uk-deac/

He asked me a while back, when I was purchasing something else from him, what I would offer for it. I knew it would be out of my price range though, so I never made an offer.

Richard

[frankenlugerguy]

Richard,
When they are deactivated in the UK, how is it done?

[MikeP]

It's brutal very gory.

[rpbcps]

Originally Posted by frankenlugerguy

Richard,
When they are deactivated in the UK, how is it done?

Indeed it is brutal.

Since 1988 there have been a number of changes in specifications which have gradually become more stricter, usually following a criminal or terrorist act using firearms. The latest specifications are those from the recent firearms directive from the European Union in 2017, which was the most brutal.

As it stands, this is the current guidelines for the deactivation of pistols in the EU:

1 PISTOLS (SINGLE SHOT, SEMI-AUTOMATIC)
Prevent the disassembly of the firearms essential components by welding, bonding or by using appropriate measures with the equivalent degree of permanence.
1.1 Barrel: Cut a longitudinal slot through the barrel including the chamber where present (width: > ½ calibre; length: for rifled barrels three times the length of chamber and for smoothbore barrels twice the length of the chamber).
1.2 Barrel: For all pistols other than those with break action barrels a hole must be drilled across the chamber through both walls and through which a hardened steel pin must be inserted and securely welded (diameter > 50 % chamber, min 4,5 mm). The same pin can be used to secure the barrel to the action. Alternatively, a plug of the size of the cartridge case must be inserted into the chamber and securely welded.
1.3 Barrel: Remove the feed ramp where present.
1.4 Barrel: The barrel must be permanently secured to the firearm by welding, bonding or by using appropriate measures with the equivalent degree of permanence. The pin used in operation 1.2 can be used for this purpose.
1.5 Barrel: For exchange barrels not contained in a pistol, apply operations 1.1-1.4 and 1.19 as applicable. In addition, the barrels must be permanently prevented from being affixed to a firearm by cutting, welding, bonding or using appropriate measures with the equivalent degree of permanence.
1.6 Breech block/bolt head: Remove or shorten firing pin.
1.7 Breech block/bolt head: Machine or remove the breech face at an angle of between 45 and 75 degrees as measured from the angle of the original face. Material must be removed across the entire breech face. All locking lugs must be removed or substantially weakened.
1.8 Breech block/bolt head: Weld the firing pin hole.
1.9 Slide: Machine or remove the breech face at an angle of between 45 and 75 degrees as measured from the angle of the original face. Material must be removed across the entire surface.
1.10 Slide: Remove the firing pin.
1.11 Slide: Remove locking lugs in slide.
1.12 Slide: Where applicable, machine the inside of the locking edge of the ejection port in the slide to an angle at a range of 45 to 75 degrees.
1.13 Slide: If the breech block can be taken off the slide body, the deactivated breech block has to be permanently fixed to the slide body.
1.14 Frame/Receiver: Remove feed ramp where present.
1.15 Frame/Receiver: Machine away at least 2/3 of the slide rails on both sides of the frame.
1.16 Trigger mechanism: Ensure destruction of the physical operating link between the trigger blade and the hammer, striker or sear. Fuse the trigger mechanism together with weld within receiver/frame, where applicable. If such fusion of the trigger mechanism is not possible, remove the trigger mechanism and fill the area with weld or epoxy resin.
1.17 Trigger mechanism: The trigger mechanism and/or housing has to be welded to the receiver/frame (in case of steel frame) or glued to the receiver/frame with high temperature resistant glue (in case of light metal or polymer frame).
1.18 Automatic system: Destroy the gas piston, gas pipe and gas port by cutting or welding.
1.19 Automatic system: If there is no gas piston, remove gas pipe. If the barrel is used as a gas piston, weld the deactivated barrel to the housing. In all cases where present, close the barrel's gas vent by welding.

CASTELLANO, I apologise for 'raining on your parade'

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by rpbcps

Indeed it is brutal.

Since 1988 there have been a number of changes in specifications which have gradually become more stricter, usually following a criminal or terrorist act using firearms. The latest specifications are those from the recent firearms directive from the European Union in 2017, which was the most brutal.

A disgusting process indeed.

I might be happier tossing a Luger into a Besemer retort.

[frankenlugerguy]

Good grief. Well, while it makes one of our persuasion ill to read, we should all know about such things. Thank you for going to that trouble.

[Karl]

I will sleep better tonight knowing that the wily terrorists lurking out there are prevented from arming themselves with Borchardts. Seriously, how many crimes have been committed in the last century with a Borchardt?

KFS

[m1903a3]

Originally Posted by Karl

I will sleep better tonight knowing that the wily terrorists lurking out there are prevented from arming themselves with Borchardts. Seriously, how many crimes have been committed in the last century with a Borchardt?

KFS

About as many as drive by bayonettings, yet a bayonet lug is a forbidden feature that turns otherwise pacific semi-auto rifles into murderous assault rifles.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Seriously, how many crimes have been committed in the last century with a Borchardt?
Only people who are dumber than we are rule over us. And we allow them to do it.

[HerrKaiser]

How Many Borchardts have been used in a crime? Well, given that only about 3000 were ever made, they were primarily bought and collected by well to do folks, and were obsolete within 5 years of their invention, probably under 5 all time.

[CASTELLANO]

Off, or unused... Never.

It's not just the fact that it can't shoot, it's about current deactivations making it impossible to conduct studies on their internal mechanisms.

In recent years, I have published two books on disarmament of short arms, with a total of 100 short arms disarmaments.

With the current unusable rules, it would have been impossible to have made these disarmaments.

Fortunately, we are still some accredited collectors we own under our legal records of collectible weapons, many weapons in perfect condition.

This Borchardt and all the collectible weapons I own inscribed in Collector's Book are intact and in a shooting state.
It has the same numbering in all its parts, including charger and back Wood

The presentation box is not original, it is a good box bought from CMR firearms ... from my friend Charles Murray

in December I plan to make videos shooting with the Borchardt, because at the moment, I have it registered as a sports shooting weapon, then I plan to register the pistol it in the Collector's Book.

Of course, with soft ammunition, with a very tight load ... just enough to load the next round.


this afternoon I will post more photos

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by CASTELLANO

...in December I plan to make videos shooting with the Borchardt, because at the moment, I have it registered as a sports shooting weapon...

Shooting a Borchardt is a pleasure every collector should have at least once in their lifetime
Ron

[gunnertwo]

Congratulations! On my bucket list, will probably kick the bucket before I own one. Hope springs eternal!

G2

[Sergio Natali]

In the past I looked for yonks hoping to find one for sale, nut never managed to, then I gave up. Great score, congratulations indeed!

[CASTELLANO]

Borchardt pistol, with her Friends

[JTD]

Ahh, the glory of days gone by....... I remember that well Ron, seems like yesterday. John