Luger Flash suppressor

Major Tom · 05-13-2018, 09:01 AM

Has anyone seen/have one of these? Made for either 30 cal or 9mm. Clamps securely to muzzle via threaded nut. What would be the value?
Thanks

DonVoigt · 05-13-2018, 09:12 AM

Are you looking at a cleaning rod guide, or part of a sub-caliber kit?

Without a picture it is hard to answer your question.

John Sabato · 05-14-2018, 09:54 AM

I would also wager that it is a cleaning rod guide... not a flash suppressor... or the mount for one...

Major Tom · 05-14-2018, 10:18 AM

Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'.
www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

DonVoigt · 05-14-2018, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Tom

Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'.
www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

link is no good

Rick W. · 05-14-2018, 01:27 PM

M.T.,

You link is not quite right.

If one goes to the base link, then accessories, the upper right is the one I suspect.

I always thought it was part of a cleaning function myself.

Looks like a 10 dollar part to me, but that is just me.

Bill_in_VA · 05-14-2018, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick W.

[...] the upper right is the one I suspect.[...]

I suspect most things Phoenix Investment has listed on their site.

Rick W. · 05-14-2018, 08:39 PM

I was trying to help with the link definition, and providing a guess of which part the OP was speaking of.

Edward Tinker · 05-14-2018, 11:15 AM

I am sure, someone post-factory has made some flash suppressors - but what you usually see is the above or the below

John Sabato · 05-14-2018, 02:25 PM

PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance...

Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

Sharpsdressed Man · 01-30-2020, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance...

Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm

Old thread, but I suspect that this device was also used occasionally to provide for a barrel extension for a sound suppressor without modifying the Luger barrel. The front portion of the device only needs to be threaded to fit the suppressor.

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpsdressed Man

Old thread, but I suspect that this device was also used occasionally to provide for a barrel extension for a sound suppressor without modifying the Luger barrel. The front portion of the device only needs to be threaded to fit the suppressor.

I think this is one of those myths - and although there is a screw on, on the end, I don't believe it could be used for a suppressor.

LU1900 · 01-30-2020, 07:22 PM

I just find those pics on the web some year ago

Edward Tinker · 05-14-2018, 03:26 PM

actually the same part can be used for cleaning OR for 4mm / 22 LR -

Major Tom · 05-14-2018, 05:22 PM

Thank you gents for the info. I thought it looked kinda funky and well over priced.

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2020, 10:51 PM

fascinating Patrice _ will say hat anything is possible

DonVoigt · 01-31-2020, 09:02 AM

I can't read the description in the book, is it a "flash hider" or sound suppressor?

What is the title of the book?

Patrice, thanks for posting the pictures.

Sharpsdressed Man · 01-31-2020, 03:15 PM

If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.

DonVoigt · 01-31-2020, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpsdressed Man

If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.

Why?
You would instantly convert your luger to a single shot pistol;
suppressors/silencers don't "silence" anyway- as you no doubt know.

It would be a simple job to thread a spare luger barrel, but switching the barrel requires tools.

If one wanted a look alike, then a modern suppressor won't do the trick either.

JMHO.

Sharpsdressed Man · 02-06-2020, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Why?
You would instantly convert your luger to a single shot pistol;
suppressors/silencers don't "silence" anyway- as you no doubt know.

It would be a simple job to thread a spare luger barrel, but switching the barrel requires tools.

If one wanted a look alike, then a modern suppressor won't do the trick either.

JMHO.

I'm not the only one who thinks it is feasible.

https://www.google.com/search?rls=co...w=1366&bih=566

05-13-2018, 09:01 AM	#1
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 228 Times in 125 Posts	Luger Flash suppressor Has anyone seen/have one of these? Made for either 30 cal or 9mm. Clamps securely to muzzle via threaded nut. What would be the value? Thanks __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

05-13-2018, 09:12 AM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Are you looking at a cleaning rod guide, or part of a sub-caliber kit? Without a picture it is hard to answer your question. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-14-2018, 09:54 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I would also wager that it is a cleaning rod guide... not a flash suppressor... or the mount for one... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-14-2018, 10:18 AM	#4
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 228 Times in 125 Posts	Luger Flash Suppressor Listed at phoenix investment arms under 'accessories'. www.phoenixinvestmentsarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

05-14-2018, 11:15 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I am sure, someone post-factory has made some flash suppressors - but what you usually see is the above or the below Attached Thumbnails

05-14-2018, 01:27 PM	#6
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	M.T., You link is not quite right. If one goes to the base link, then accessories, the upper right is the one I suspect. I always thought it was part of a cleaning function myself. Looks like a 10 dollar part to me, but that is just me.

05-14-2018, 08:39 PM	#8
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	I was trying to help with the link definition, and providing a guess of which part the OP was speaking of.

05-14-2018, 02:25 PM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	PIA is incorrect in its identification of this device. This is a bore guide for the cleaning rod. It possesses no design feature which would reduce or eliminate a flash, and merely extends the muzzle by a very short distance... Here is the corrected URL to see it: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/AC12flashsupp.htm __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-30-2020, 07:22 PM	#13
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 912 Thanks: 46 Thanked 473 Times in 199 Posts	I just find those pics on the web some year ago Attached Thumbnails __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

05-14-2018, 03:26 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	actually the same part can be used for cleaning OR for 4mm / 22 LR -

05-14-2018, 05:22 PM	#15
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 228 Times in 125 Posts	Thank you gents for the info. I thought it looked kinda funky and well over priced. __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

01-30-2020, 10:51 PM	#16
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	fascinating Patrice _ will say hat anything is possible

01-31-2020, 09:02 AM	#17
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	I can't read the description in the book, is it a "flash hider" or sound suppressor? What is the title of the book? Patrice, thanks for posting the pictures. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-31-2020, 03:15 PM	#18
Sharpsdressed Man User Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	If I could find a reasonably priced one for my 9mm Luger, I'd buy it and give it ago. I have several registered 9mm suppressors, and could easily get a blank extension threaded for my units. Current ones available on Ebay are for the 7.65MM Luger and P38 only.