Can you educate me on a newly acquired luger

fortiusarms · 06-27-2017, 02:10 PM

This is my second luger. Seam to love collecting these peices of history. Seams like the deals fall in my lap and i never have any time to research them and I did well evaluating my first one I thought to take a chance on a second.
Please educate me on any/all stampings or approximate year this was made if anyone can determine that.

To me this looked like more of a shooter than a collector. Didnt seam like anything special stuck out to me. May have been rebarreled at some point as there is no serial on the barrel. I gave $600 of my hard earned dollars for this peice. Let me know what you think and if I have been had.

Norme · 06-27-2017, 02:24 PM

Hi Chris,
You have what we call a "Mixmaster", a gun fabricated from parts from different guns. The toggle train is from a K Date (1934) Mauser, but as to the other parts, we would need to see much clearer photos.
Norm

fortiusarms · 06-27-2017, 02:45 PM

here are some better pics

cirelaw · 06-27-2017, 02:43 PM

A Franken Luger~~

cirelaw · 06-27-2017, 03:31 PM

Did the seller ever fire it?? You don't want a luger grenade!!

alanint · 06-27-2017, 05:22 PM

It is probably an East German Vopo, as someone bothered to "x" out a number of markings and force match others. I'm guessing the grips were added after import. Any import marks to be seen?

DavidJayUden · 06-27-2017, 05:36 PM

I'm wondering aloud if the front of the frame hasn't been ground down and re-numbered. But regardless, you weren't "had" but don't quit your job either. Definitely a shooter.
dju

Eugen · 06-27-2017, 05:49 PM

For $600 you bought a decent shooter. I assume (and hope) it cycles ammo and shoots well. What's the condition of the bore?

Enjoy it!

fortiusarms · 06-27-2017, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugen

For $600 you bought a decent shooter. I assume (and hope) it cycles ammo and shoots well. What's the condition of the bore?

Enjoy it!

bore is bright ish. def not heavily pitted or anything. if say the barrel is more than likely not original. I'm gonna run some low pressure reloads tonight to check function.

rhuff · 06-27-2017, 07:35 PM

If this Luger will function correctly, then I think that you did just fine at $600. I would have purchased it at that amount of money, and I don't need anymore Lugers.

Lugerdoc · 06-28-2017, 01:32 PM

Definately a DDR rework with several renumbered parts including the frame. I was selling these 30 years ago for $500 when they were still being imported, so $600 sounds like a fair retail price. TH

Mac Cat · 06-29-2017, 10:55 AM

Good find. Fair price, particularly if it still shoots!
It will be interesting to explore further.

The frame looks like a Swiss design, to me ( no stock lug, numbers all on the left side).

Dick Herman · 06-29-2017, 09:17 PM

This is a good deal for a complete functioning Luger. You could take it to the range and not be paranoid about hurting it. You could part it out and sell the pieces and come out ahead.

Historically, do not allow being a VOPO demean your pride of ownership. VOPO Lugers are part of the mystic of Luger history.
Enjoy your new acquisition.

rhuff · 06-30-2017, 02:17 PM

How does it shoot??

06-27-2017, 02:10 PM	#1
fortiusarms New User Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Can you educate me on a newly acquired luger This is my second luger. Seam to love collecting these peices of history. Seams like the deals fall in my lap and i never have any time to research them and I did well evaluating my first one I thought to take a chance on a second. Please educate me on any/all stampings or approximate year this was made if anyone can determine that. To me this looked like more of a shooter than a collector. Didnt seam like anything special stuck out to me. May have been rebarreled at some point as there is no serial on the barrel. I gave $600 of my hard earned dollars for this peice. Let me know what you think and if I have been had.

06-27-2017, 05:49 PM	#8
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 392 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	For $600 you bought a decent shooter. I assume (and hope) it cycles ammo and shoots well. What's the condition of the bore? Enjoy it! __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

06-28-2017, 01:32 PM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Definately a DDR rework with several renumbered parts including the frame. I was selling these 30 years ago for $500 when they were still being imported, so $600 sounds like a fair retail price. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-27-2017, 02:24 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Chris, You have what we call a "Mixmaster", a gun fabricated from parts from different guns. The toggle train is from a K Date (1934) Mauser, but as to the other parts, we would need to see much clearer photos. Norm

06-27-2017, 02:45 PM	#3
fortiusarms New User Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	here are some better pics

06-27-2017, 02:43 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A Franken Luger~~

06-27-2017, 03:31 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Did the seller ever fire it?? You don't want a luger grenade!!

06-27-2017, 05:22 PM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	It is probably an East German Vopo, as someone bothered to "x" out a number of markings and force match others. I'm guessing the grips were added after import. Any import marks to be seen?

06-27-2017, 05:36 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'm wondering aloud if the front of the frame hasn't been ground down and re-numbered. But regardless, you weren't "had" but don't quit your job either. Definitely a shooter. dju

06-27-2017, 07:35 PM	#10
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,289 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	If this Luger will function correctly, then I think that you did just fine at $600. I would have purchased it at that amount of money, and I don't need anymore Lugers.

06-29-2017, 10:55 AM	#12
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 723 Thanks: 2,085 Thanked 603 Times in 325 Posts	Good find. Fair price, particularly if it still shoots! It will be interesting to explore further. The frame looks like a Swiss design, to me ( no stock lug, numbers all on the left side).

06-29-2017, 09:17 PM	#13
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	This is a good deal for a complete functioning Luger. You could take it to the range and not be paranoid about hurting it. You could part it out and sell the pieces and come out ahead. Historically, do not allow being a VOPO demean your pride of ownership. VOPO Lugers are part of the mystic of Luger history. Enjoy your new acquisition.

06-30-2017, 02:17 PM	#14
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,289 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	How does it shoot??