Holster questions

Dave Sanders · 02-19-2017, 02:20 AM

I am being offered this holster with a parts luger, and I had some questions about it. I took the pictures with my camera, so pardon the pictures. One question I have is it a wartime holster from what you can tell. Another, why is there no tool pouch? Lastly, is the closure stud a replacement, or were they the aluminum type like this one? Any help would be appreciated.
Dave

alanint · 02-20-2017, 06:21 PM

It looks like a Weimar era police holster, but more photos would help to nail this down.
It is missing the typical cross strap the closure strap goes under.

DonVoigt · 02-20-2017, 08:22 PM

Police holster, but later IMO.
How about a full picture of the back and from the front with the flap up.
Pictures are cheap!

Edward Tinker · 02-20-2017, 08:53 PM

The cross strap you see sometimes, more often from repurposed artillery holsters - brass studs are earlier than aluminum or steel but you find a mixture, they used what they could get, we show them fairly well in our book. That chapter was written hand in hand with Jerry Burney, so its pretty good.

I am surprised it doesn't have a luger tool pouch, only time I see that is post war DDR for luger/P38 - but with police holsters, never say never

I also have never seen one marked with the serial number sideways like that

It looks old, but I don't really like this holster - what is the writing on the inside?

Dave Sanders · 02-20-2017, 09:25 PM

I will post some more pictures tonight. I got a pretty good look at the stamp and it says:
Kasse u. Liederwaren Fabrik Zeitz
Scholle (something I can't make out)
Zeitz

It doesn't show any sign of the cross strap ever veing there and no sign of a pouch. It sure looks WWII type to me when I put it up to my other, but I am sure no expert. I will post some more pictures in a bit as I have it in hand now. Thye other were from my cell phone and not the best. Thanks for your help so far.
Dave

Dave Sanders · 02-20-2017, 09:57 PM

Here are some more pictures.
Dave

Dave Sanders · 02-20-2017, 09:59 PM

Last three

Dave Sanders · 02-20-2017, 11:06 PM

Forgot two more.

wlyon · 02-20-2017, 11:01 PM

My best guess is post WW2. Bill

02-19-2017, 02:20 AM	#1
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 284 Thanks: 28 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	Holster questions I am being offered this holster with a parts luger, and I had some questions about it. I took the pictures with my camera, so pardon the pictures. One question I have is it a wartime holster from what you can tell. Another, why is there no tool pouch? Lastly, is the closure stud a replacement, or were they the aluminum type like this one? Any help would be appreciated. Dave Attached Thumbnails

02-20-2017, 08:22 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Police holster, but later IMO. How about a full picture of the back and from the front with the flap up. Pictures are cheap! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-20-2017, 09:57 PM	#6
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 284 Thanks: 28 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	Here are some more pictures. Dave Attached Thumbnails

02-20-2017, 09:59 PM	#7
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 284 Thanks: 28 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	Last three Attached Thumbnails

02-20-2017, 11:06 PM	#8
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 284 Thanks: 28 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	Forgot two more. Attached Thumbnails

02-20-2017, 06:21 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	It looks like a Weimar era police holster, but more photos would help to nail this down. It is missing the typical cross strap the closure strap goes under.

02-20-2017, 08:53 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	The cross strap you see sometimes, more often from repurposed artillery holsters - brass studs are earlier than aluminum or steel but you find a mixture, they used what they could get, we show them fairly well in our book. That chapter was written hand in hand with Jerry Burney, so its pretty good. I am surprised it doesn't have a luger tool pouch, only time I see that is post war DDR for luger/P38 - but with police holsters, never say never I also have never seen one marked with the serial number sideways like that It looks old, but I don't really like this holster - what is the writing on the inside?

02-20-2017, 09:25 PM	#5
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 284 Thanks: 28 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	I will post some more pictures tonight. I got a pretty good look at the stamp and it says: Kasse u. Liederwaren Fabrik Zeitz Scholle (something I can't make out) Zeitz It doesn't show any sign of the cross strap ever veing there and no sign of a pouch. It sure looks WWII type to me when I put it up to my other, but I am sure no expert. I will post some more pictures in a bit as I have it in hand now. Thye other were from my cell phone and not the best. Thanks for your help so far. Dave

02-20-2017, 11:01 PM	#9
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,618 Times in 971 Posts	My best guess is post WW2. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon