Election Night !

sheepherder · 11-08-2016, 08:52 PM

I didn't think the TV coverage would be very interesting, but I'm getting sort of caught up in it.

I'm watching CBS. The usual blowhards and wannabe experts but they seem to be chalking up the electoral votes as they mount up rather than projecting states before all the returns are in.

I did my due diligence months ago; researching candidates (local and national) to see who agreed with my esoteric views on government and made up my voting booth 'cheat sheet'.

It turned out to be pretty much worthless. When I actually got into the booth and started filling in the circles, it soon became apparent that I was voting straight across the board. An elective 'flat liner'. No deviations whatsoever.

I don't really have any confidence in the presidential race. My only hope there is that both parties come up with better candidates four years from now.

ithacaartist · 11-08-2016, 09:08 PM

Heh. I'd settle for one!

Eugen · 11-08-2016, 09:23 PM

The lyrics to this song to mind:

"Laugh about, shout about it
When you've got to choose
anyway you look at it you lose."

Mrs. Robinson, Paul Simon

wlyon · 11-08-2016, 09:44 PM

The loser in this race, no matter who wins, is the American people. Bill

mrerick · 11-08-2016, 11:13 PM

In our North Carolina state elections, there has been a shift to the Republicans in the council of state. We look like we'll also maintain our super majorities in the legislature - both house and senate.

The Governor race is too close to call but the Republican is ahead.

The state was just called for Trump.

It's interesting to see all the pessimistic pro Clinton news spokespeople suddenly start sounding neutral (they way they should have been all during the past year)... They still can't help themselves though, putting lots of emphasis on how the uneducated are voting for Trump.

Best of all, all the polling is turning out to be inaccurate. I suspected that this might happen since all the more conservative people I know don't bother to pick up the phone and talk with the pollsters.

We are about to live in "interesting times"...

sheepherder · 11-09-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

It's interesting to see all the pessimistic pro Clinton news spokespeople suddenly start sounding neutral (they way they should have been all during the past year)... They still can't help themselves though, putting lots of emphasis on how the uneducated are voting for Trump...

I thought the CBS mouthpieces were overly optimistic about Clinton. They started the coverage at 7:00pm and they were smugly confident that the Clinton machine would carry the 'battleground' states. Then, at about 1:45am, they were at 215/244 with Trump in the lead and five 'battleground' states remaining (plus a couple others they had ignored all evening) and they were making noises about a Trump victory as inevitable.

The justifications they were bringoing up were ludricous. Single middle aged illiterate white suburban housewives swung the vote for Trump! Right!

MikeP · 11-09-2016, 03:43 AM

Thank you America.

sheepherder · 11-09-2016, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeP

Thank you America.

"I'm the NRA...and I vote!"...

Eugen · 11-09-2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

"I'm the NRA...and I vote!"...

You've got that right!

Tonight is the Eastern Illinois Gun Club monthly dinner and meeting (in the "no-stoplight" little community of Porterville, IL and my shooting range and fishing hole). There is going to be a whole lot of beer and BBQ consumed tonight. The membership is mostly "deplorables" that cling to our guns and religion.

That said, I am more happy that Hilary got defeated than I am that Donald got elected.

Olle · 11-09-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugen

That said, I am more happy that Hilary got defeated than I am that Donald got elected.

That is exactly my sentiment. This was one of those election where you had to pick your poison, but I still think the outcome was to the better.

Ben M. · 11-13-2016, 09:04 PM

thanks goodness for the deporables !!!

our state of michigan is red now.

sheepherder · 11-13-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben M.

our state of michigan is red now.

Unfortunately, I live in a blue state.

In fact, if it weren't for New York City, we also would be red [source: Buffalo News]. IMHO, NYC should be a state all by itself. Did you know that new York City has more people than NINE US states combined???

New York City - 8.406 million (2013)

New Hampshire 1,326,813
Rhode Island 1,055,173
Montana 1,023,579
Delaware 935,614
South Dakota 853,175
North Dakota 739,482
Alaska 737,732
Vermont 626,011
Wyoming 584,153

George Anderson · 11-09-2016, 07:44 AM

Better he than she!

DavidJayUden · 11-09-2016, 08:59 AM

I, for one, am enthused, encouraged and energized by the election results. So much so that I'm off to the rifle range to enjoy one of my favored freedoms.
Have a great day!
dju

mrerick · 11-09-2016, 09:01 AM

Both our governor race and attorney general race and the supreme court in Nc have shifted to the progressives by a narrow margin. There will be delays and recounts on te governor race.

All of this looks like it was the result of the NC "Bathroom Bill". They literally may have flushed their candidacies down the toilet..

George Anderson · 11-09-2016, 10:28 AM

Imagine the "F-bombs" spewing from the booger woman!

mrerick · 11-09-2016, 12:14 PM

Being involved in Second Amendment issues, I'm used to being on the negative prejudice side of the "free and neutral press". John Lott has documented it thoroughly in his book "The Bias Against Guns".

The press and polling organizations have quite a bit to answer for, and particularly their behavior during this election cycle.

Instead of blaming a large number of factors (now including supposed racism, low education of the electorate and other "deplorable" accusations) they need to do some self analysis and look into the quality of work that they are actually doing.

It's easy for members of the press to just plain not do their jobs. They buy into unsubstantiated ideas that they like, block out ideas and discussion that challenges their fake positions and generally behave in a lazy and unreliable untrustworthy manner.

A critical analysis of the supposedly neutral talking heads video footage recorded on Monday and on Tuesday morning versus their footage recorded after about 10PM EST Tuesday will show more excuses and speculation than facts.

There are good reasons we no longer trust the "fourth estate"...

lugerholsterrepair · 11-09-2016, 12:15 PM

Gentlemen, This turned out almost exactly like President Reagan's election. The "silent majority" stepped up and corrected the error. Now at least we have a chance to be the great Nation the World needs. President elect Trump has his work cut out..a long row to hoe. Let us pray that he will try to emulate President Reagan.

rhuff · 11-09-2016, 12:56 PM

I can tell you'all that I find that the sun is shining brighter at my house then it was on Monday. I am elated to maintain the House and Senate, plus take the White House. Trump said he would reverse ALL of O'bummer's executive orders, which will aid the gun folks and others. I could not be more pleased with what we(America) accomplished last night. Now, if I could get rid of this headache!!

sheepherder · 11-09-2016, 01:27 PM

I watched CNN at ~noon today, they were lamenting that Trump won because too many voters stayed home and didn't vote...Hispanics, blacks, the uneducated...My local station (a CBS affiliate) reported that voter turnout was greater (75% vs 70%) than the 2012 election...

"Exit polls"...Now the talking heads are saying that voters gave misleading information when they left the polls and were interviewed...Nobody was asking questions at my polling place...I visited another polling place (a library in the nearest city), still no interviewers...

Where were all these 'exit polls' taking place??? Certainly not in my predominantly blue collar neighborhoods...

Why would anyone lie about how/why they voted??? I would be happy to elect a woman president - I think Sarah Palin would have been a viable candidate, if she had had four or eight years as vice with McCain as president...

Now they're talking about Trump structuring a third party separate from the Republican party...I say, good on him!

11-08-2016, 08:52 PM	#1
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Election Night ! I didn't think the TV coverage would be very interesting, but I'm getting sort of caught up in it. I'm watching CBS. The usual blowhards and wannabe experts but they seem to be chalking up the electoral votes as they mount up rather than projecting states before all the returns are in. I did my due diligence months ago; researching candidates (local and national) to see who agreed with my esoteric views on government and made up my voting booth 'cheat sheet'. It turned out to be pretty much worthless. When I actually got into the booth and started filling in the circles, it soon became apparent that I was voting straight across the board. An elective 'flat liner'. No deviations whatsoever. I don't really have any confidence in the presidential race. My only hope there is that both parties come up with better candidates four years from now. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

11-08-2016, 09:08 PM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,377 Thanks: 7,452 Thanked 2,613 Times in 1,380 Posts	Heh. I'd settle for one! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-08-2016, 09:23 PM	#3
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 797 Thanks: 403 Thanked 640 Times in 339 Posts	The lyrics to this song to mind: "Laugh about, shout about it When you've got to choose anyway you look at it you lose." Mrs. Robinson, Paul Simon __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

11-08-2016, 09:44 PM	#4
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,656 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,620 Times in 972 Posts	The loser in this race, no matter who wins, is the American people. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	In our North Carolina state elections, there has been a shift to the Republicans in the council of state. We look like we'll also maintain our super majorities in the legislature - both house and senate. The Governor race is too close to call but the Republican is ahead. The state was just called for Trump. It's interesting to see all the pessimistic pro Clinton news spokespeople suddenly start sounding neutral (they way they should have been all during the past year)... They still can't help themselves though, putting lots of emphasis on how the uneducated are voting for Trump. Best of all, all the polling is turning out to be inaccurate. I suspected that this might happen since all the more conservative people I know don't bother to pick up the phone and talk with the pollsters. We are about to live in "interesting times"... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-09-2016, 03:43 AM	#7
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Thank you America.

11-13-2016, 09:04 PM	#11
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 499 Thanks: 96 Thanked 146 Times in 91 Posts	thanks goodness for the deporables !!! our state of michigan is red now.

11-09-2016, 07:44 AM	#13
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Better he than she!

11-09-2016, 08:59 AM	#14
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I, for one, am enthused, encouraged and energized by the election results. So much so that I'm off to the rifle range to enjoy one of my favored freedoms. Have a great day! dju

11-09-2016, 09:01 AM	#15
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Both our governor race and attorney general race and the supreme court in Nc have shifted to the progressives by a narrow margin. There will be delays and recounts on te governor race. All of this looks like it was the result of the NC "Bathroom Bill". They literally may have flushed their candidacies down the toilet.. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-09-2016, 10:28 AM	#16
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Imagine the "F-bombs" spewing from the booger woman!

11-09-2016, 12:14 PM	#17
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Being involved in Second Amendment issues, I'm used to being on the negative prejudice side of the "free and neutral press". John Lott has documented it thoroughly in his book "The Bias Against Guns". The press and polling organizations have quite a bit to answer for, and particularly their behavior during this election cycle. Instead of blaming a large number of factors (now including supposed racism, low education of the electorate and other "deplorable" accusations) they need to do some self analysis and look into the quality of work that they are actually doing. It's easy for members of the press to just plain not do their jobs. They buy into unsubstantiated ideas that they like, block out ideas and discussion that challenges their fake positions and generally behave in a lazy and unreliable untrustworthy manner. A critical analysis of the supposedly neutral talking heads video footage recorded on Monday and on Tuesday morning versus their footage recorded after about 10PM EST Tuesday will show more excuses and speculation than facts. There are good reasons we no longer trust the "fourth estate"... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-09-2016, 12:15 PM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Gentlemen, This turned out almost exactly like President Reagan's election. The "silent majority" stepped up and corrected the error. Now at least we have a chance to be the great Nation the World needs. President elect Trump has his work cut out..a long row to hoe. Let us pray that he will try to emulate President Reagan. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-09-2016, 12:56 PM	#19
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	I can tell you'all that I find that the sun is shining brighter at my house then it was on Monday. I am elated to maintain the House and Senate, plus take the White House. Trump said he would reverse ALL of O'bummer's executive orders, which will aid the gun folks and others. I could not be more pleased with what we(America) accomplished last night. Now, if I could get rid of this headache!!

11-09-2016, 01:27 PM	#20
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	I watched CNN at ~noon today, they were lamenting that Trump won because too many voters stayed home and didn't vote...Hispanics, blacks, the uneducated...My local station (a CBS affiliate) reported that voter turnout was greater (75% vs 70%) than the 2012 election... "Exit polls"...Now the talking heads are saying that voters gave misleading information when they left the polls and were interviewed...Nobody was asking questions at my polling place...I visited another polling place (a library in the nearest city), still no interviewers... Where were all these 'exit polls' taking place??? Certainly not in my predominantly blue collar neighborhoods... Why would anyone lie about how/why they voted??? I would be happy to elect a woman president - I think Sarah Palin would have been a viable candidate, if she had had four or eight years as vice with McCain as president... Now they're talking about Trump structuring a third party separate from the Republican party...I say, good on him! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...