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02-13-2013, 04:01 PM | #1 |
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help me,please...1941?
First of all,i have to sorry because my english level is not good...i hope you understand me...i am from spain, and a friend of mine has a luger, i am trying to help him to know more about it...i have been reading about it, and i think is a luger from mauser 1941 or 1942...serial number 127, with number 27 in all the pieces...what do you think about it? thanks for your help
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02-13-2013, 04:19 PM | #2 |
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La fecha de fabricacion de su pistola aparecera sobre la camara y detras del canon. Su Luger es una Mauser, pero dependiendo de la fecha encima de la camara se sabra si el acabado es correcto o no. Podria darnos esa fecha?
The date of manufacture will be found over the chamber. Your gun may have been refinished, but it is a desirable "large S" S/42 pistol. We need to know what the chamber date to see if your straw is correct. |
02-13-2013, 04:48 PM | #3 |
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Welcome to the forum. It is difficult to help out when pictures are out of focus, and taken using a flash.
Try to take more photographs using indirect (shaded) light outdoors, and use a tripod. Set your camera for close up (macro) and try to photograph details more sharply. Google Machine Translation: Bienvenido al foro. Es difícil ayudar cuando las fotografías están fuera de foco, y tomado con flash. Trate de tomar más fotografías utilizando indirectos (sombreada) al aire libre de luz, y el uso de un trípode. Configure la cámara para que de cerca (macro) y tratar de fotografiar los detalles más agudamente. Marc
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thanks for your advices,tomorrow i will take more photos, and i,ll try to give you more details
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02-19-2013, 08:56 AM | #5 |
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Hellow again,i have taken more photos, i don't know if they are clear enough, but i only have a tablet to take them...the last one, i was unable to take a better photo,the numbers are 127, and 8 (with a little mark like a star under it), and 82.i wish you can tell me more about this pistol, i'm sorry because i know the photos are not good enough
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02-19-2013, 09:02 AM | #6 |
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i have forgotten to add that i have the pistol although it's not mine, if you want more details about the marks i can answer you, thanks again
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02-19-2013, 10:54 AM | #7 |
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The chamber area of your pistol looks heavily damaged. What happened here? Can you read a date in this area?
La porcion arriba de la camara de esta pistola se nota altamente danada. Que le paso a la pistola en esa area? Se ve alguna fecha en ese sitio? |
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Your photo's are as you say..not good. The details are what we look for and if they can't be seen..no useable information will be forthcoming.
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I have asked the owner, and he has told me that the chamber was holed in the mark of the year . by the Guardia Civil (i don't know how to translate it, it's like Police) when the pistol belonged to his father, because they had not license. After this, his father ordered to restaure the gun and now is usefull. I will get help to take the photos with a reflex, i'm sorry because my english+my photos=disaster
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I have the photos¡ thank you
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Hi, Based on the proof and inspection marks on the left side of the receiver, I would say that this gun is a G date (made in 1935). It's too bad that the chamber was scrubbed. Enclosed is a photo of a G date left receiver.
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Hi, These pictures are much more helpful.
Your Luger was made by Mauser in 1935. It was originally a ("K" See note below...) date marked Luger before the chamber damage and repair. You can tell this from the B90 S91 proofs and the shape of the rear of the receiver (no Mauser Hump). Except for the damage and repair, it looks to be in pretty good condition. Marc
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Your pistol is either a rare G or rare K date Luger, which your Guardia Civil destroyed as a collector piece by drilling a hole through the chamber area. Although your friend has apparently welded this hole shut, then growned down the area to profile, I am not sure I would ever consider this pistol safe again. What a shame.
La pistola de su amigo es una rara version con fecha "G" o "K", (no se sabe todavia). Son muy cotizadas entre coleccionistas, pero tristemente, su Guardia Civil la destruyo como pieza de coleccion. Su amigo aparentemente soldo y emparejo la supercifie de la camara, supondremos con el proposito de poder dispararla. No estoy seguro que yo confiaria de esta reparacion y en mi opinion, seria peligroso disparar esta arma. |
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Ok, thanks for your help, as you say it's a shame, my friend wants to sell it,should i have to tell him that the pistol has not value...?
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The pistol is certainly worth something. But as a potentially dangerous shooter, people in this country would not offer much more than the value of the sum of its parts as spares.
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The serial number indicates it is most likely a K-Date. The magazine if from a G-Date.
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Sorry, i found it
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