Has anyone seen this on a 1906?

markbritt · 11-05-2012, 06:42 PM

Was looking to pick up a 1906 with safety grip, etc - I knew the luger was worn. The seller just sent me this pic. Is there anyone that can fill this in so rust blue will cover just right? I plan on refinishing the luger.

skeeter4206 · 11-05-2012, 06:49 PM

what interest me is the hole in the front grip at the bottom.

Edward Tinker · 11-05-2012, 07:08 PM

I would guess some kind of home made 'shoulder stock' / with the hole being a base?

Ed

alanint · 11-05-2012, 08:02 PM

The hole appears to have a set screw threaded inside, so its anybody's guess what it was for.

wlyon · 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM

The grips have a Dutch Vickers type checkering. May we see pictures of the top? The hole is beyond me. What does the bore look like? If the rest of the gun looks as bad as it appears in the picture why restore it? Bill

DavidJayUden · 11-05-2012, 08:30 PM

It looks like a job for our own Thor. Shoot it past him for an opinion on filling and re-bluing. And that hole certainly has me stumped. I thought of a loop lanyard ring, but the filler set screw sort of shoots that idea. Unless it was added just to fill the hole.
dju

mrerick · 11-05-2012, 09:00 PM

Could it be so worn inside that the magazine catch isn't working, so someone tapped in a set screw to hold the magazine in place?

Marc

deepdarkwoodsman · 11-06-2012, 07:07 AM

I agree with Bill about the grips. If this is a Dutch Luger, you may be best served to leave it alone. Most of these are found in pretty rough shape. We need more information on the gun before we can give you sound advice. Additional photos from all angles would ge helpful.

Doug

nukem556 · 11-06-2012, 09:53 AM

If the rest of the gun looks as bad as it appears in the picture why restore it?

Ha...thats exactly why!

Seriously, anyone skilled at TIG welding can fill that hole, just make sure they use carbon steel wire and leave a raised bead over the area ...you can file close to flush, then finish with emery cloth...after rust bluing, it should be unnoticeable

alanint · 11-06-2012, 09:56 AM

Take the grips off carefully and see what that hole looks like from the other side. Does it go all the way through?

wlyon · 11-06-2012, 03:36 PM

Would still be interesting to know what is on the rear toggle. Bill

lugerholsterrepair · 11-06-2012, 05:41 PM

Guys..ca'mon! Everyone knows this is an Imperial U-Boot Luger! The holes is in the bottom for when they come to the surface..to let the water out!

sheepherder · 11-06-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Guys..ca'mon! Everyone knows this is an Imperial U-Boot Luger! The holes is in the bottom for when they come to the surface..to let the water out!

Eine Pistole für Kanalrohr Segler???

CAP Black · 11-07-2012, 10:10 AM

I must be missing something here. Why in a U-Boat would the people and their equipment (weapons) be immersed in water? They lived down there for long periods - I would think - in very dry conditions; except when they were getting bombarded???
Jack

ithacaartist · 11-09-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Guys..ca'mon! Everyone knows this is an Imperial U-Boot Luger! The holes is in the bottom for when they come to the surface..to let the water out!

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I personally support the drain-hole theory...

+1!

Just kidding! ...though I wondered if it might explain the tapped hole in the grip strap of MY 1906 AE! Well, really, I don't see any purpose for your hole, beyond its being the evidence of a retro-fitted stock of some sort. I plan to TIG up the hole in mine, though I'll document the existing situation with pics, and save the knurled thumbscrew doo-hickey that was screwed into it, then spot-refinish. Mine has already been refinished, so doing this won't affect its collectability.

alanint · 11-07-2012, 10:36 AM

Jack,

Jerry is indulging in a long standing joke here, where unscrupulous dealers have an explanation for every shortcoming or unusual modification on a gun they are trying to foist on an unsuspecting customer.

Under this logic, chrome plated Lugers also become "Navy Models". Crappy engraved pistols become "High Party Presentation pieces", etc.

markbritt · 11-07-2012, 10:38 PM

Guys:

Thanks for the input and the jokes. Fact is I am expecting this luger later this week. I will post the refininshing in the "Refinishing" section once I am done. I'll definitely get this old gal looking good as new.

MarkD

lugerholsterrepair · 11-07-2012, 10:51 PM

Mark..Sorry I just couldn't resist. God and the guy who drilled the hole are the only ones who know what it might be for. It's certainly not kosher in any way. Like a ground off stock lug..it just has to be restored to what it's supposed to be. Yes..keep us posted on it's restoration. Good Luck!

alanint · 11-08-2012, 07:43 AM

Mark,

Before you mess with it, please send photos of all markings on the pistol.

It might be worth your while to keep it as is if its something special.

CAP Black · 11-08-2012, 09:21 AM

I understood the humor but I thought that Markbritt could use some saneness in our responses. He is about to make a purchase and is intense on what he faces. Knowledge was what he needed. Jerry is usually the one who says: "Let's be serious and try to help the man." I appreciate Jerry's humor and his experience. He helps me and quite often.
It's not fun to see a Luger all butchered up, is it?
Jack

11-05-2012, 06:42 PM	#1
markbritt User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 240 Thanks: 5 Thanked 48 Times in 22 Posts	Has anyone seen this on a 1906? Was looking to pick up a 1906 with safety grip, etc - I knew the luger was worn. The seller just sent me this pic. Is there anyone that can fill this in so rust blue will cover just right? I plan on refinishing the luger. Attached Thumbnails

11-05-2012, 07:08 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I would guess some kind of home made 'shoulder stock' / with the hole being a base? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-05-2012, 08:15 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	The grips have a Dutch Vickers type checkering. May we see pictures of the top? The hole is beyond me. What does the bore look like? If the rest of the gun looks as bad as it appears in the picture why restore it? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

11-05-2012, 09:00 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Could it be so worn inside that the magazine catch isn't working, so someone tapped in a set screw to hold the magazine in place? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-06-2012, 03:36 PM	#11
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	Would still be interesting to know what is on the rear toggle. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

11-05-2012, 06:49 PM	#2
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	what interest me is the hole in the front grip at the bottom.

11-05-2012, 08:02 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The hole appears to have a set screw threaded inside, so its anybody's guess what it was for.

11-05-2012, 08:30 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	It looks like a job for our own Thor. Shoot it past him for an opinion on filling and re-bluing. And that hole certainly has me stumped. I thought of a loop lanyard ring, but the filler set screw sort of shoots that idea. Unless it was added just to fill the hole. dju

11-06-2012, 07:07 AM	#8
deepdarkwoodsman User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 38 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	I agree with Bill about the grips. If this is a Dutch Luger, you may be best served to leave it alone. Most of these are found in pretty rough shape. We need more information on the gun before we can give you sound advice. Additional photos from all angles would ge helpful. Doug

11-06-2012, 09:53 AM	#9
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	If the rest of the gun looks as bad as it appears in the picture why restore it? Ha...thats exactly why! Seriously, anyone skilled at TIG welding can fill that hole, just make sure they use carbon steel wire and leave a raised bead over the area ...you can file close to flush, then finish with emery cloth...after rust bluing, it should be unnoticeable

11-06-2012, 09:56 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Take the grips off carefully and see what that hole looks like from the other side. Does it go all the way through?

11-06-2012, 05:41 PM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Guys..ca'mon! Everyone knows this is an Imperial U-Boot Luger! The holes is in the bottom for when they come to the surface..to let the water out! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-07-2012, 10:10 AM	#14
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	U-Boat? I must be missing something here. Why in a U-Boat would the people and their equipment (weapons) be immersed in water? They lived down there for long periods - I would think - in very dry conditions; except when they were getting bombarded??? Jack

11-07-2012, 10:36 AM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Jack, Jerry is indulging in a long standing joke here, where unscrupulous dealers have an explanation for every shortcoming or unusual modification on a gun they are trying to foist on an unsuspecting customer. Under this logic, chrome plated Lugers also become "Navy Models". Crappy engraved pistols become "High Party Presentation pieces", etc.

11-07-2012, 10:38 PM	#17
markbritt User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 240 Thanks: 5 Thanked 48 Times in 22 Posts	Guys: Thanks for the input and the jokes. Fact is I am expecting this luger later this week. I will post the refininshing in the "Refinishing" section once I am done. I'll definitely get this old gal looking good as new. MarkD

11-07-2012, 10:51 PM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Mark..Sorry I just couldn't resist. God and the guy who drilled the hole are the only ones who know what it might be for. It's certainly not kosher in any way. Like a ground off stock lug..it just has to be restored to what it's supposed to be. Yes..keep us posted on it's restoration. Good Luck! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-08-2012, 07:43 AM	#19
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Mark, Before you mess with it, please send photos of all markings on the pistol. It might be worth your while to keep it as is if its something special.

11-08-2012, 09:21 AM	#20
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	I understood the humor but I thought that Markbritt could use some saneness in our responses. He is about to make a purchase and is intense on what he faces. Knowledge was what he needed. Jerry is usually the one who says: "Let's be serious and try to help the man." I appreciate Jerry's humor and his experience. He helps me and quite often. It's not fun to see a Luger all butchered up, is it? Jack