Luger receiver question

smithwr3 · 03-30-2011, 07:35 AM

I'm a new luger owner and by looking at the parts listing on this website, there is some disparity between the diagram and what the corresponding parts are called. Is the luger receiver the portion of the gun that the barrel is screwed into, that I would call the slide or is it the grip frame?

alanint · 03-30-2011, 08:25 AM

Welcome!
The receiver would be the part the barrel screws into.

Edward Tinker · 03-30-2011, 09:29 AM

Welcome to the forum

I think 'receiver' because it is stationary, a slide moves back and forth (ala a 1911A1)

Ed

John Sabato · 03-30-2011, 10:04 AM

This information may or may not be beyond your question, but you should know that in the eyes of the BATFE, the grip frame is the controlled serial numbered part... not the upper receiver...

Personally I think it should be the upper receiver since you can fire a single shot without the grip frame installed... (NOTE: THIS PRACTICE IS NOT RECOMMENDED!) ...but unfortunately I am not paid to make decisions for the BATFE...

Welcome to the Lugerforum!

alanint · 03-30-2011, 10:23 AM

As John pointed out, there is no rhyme or reason to BATF's determinations. Examples;
AR15/M16- Lower receiver, (pistol grip area) is controlled part
FN FAL- Upper receiver is controlled part
M79 grenade launcher- BARREL is controlled part!!

smithwr3 · 03-31-2011, 08:24 AM

Great thanks for the info. I should have mentioned in my original post that I was looking for what BATFE calls the "receiver".

Lugerdoc · 03-31-2011, 12:40 PM

Smith, By definitioin, the receiver is the part that contains the sear. Since the Luger and the Ruger .22 pistols are the only two hhhhpistols that come to mind where the receiver is not the frame, perhaps that's why the ATF has over looked these. In Europe, most countries consider the barrel the controlled part. TH

03-30-2011, 07:35 AM	#1
smithwr3 New User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger receiver question I'm a new luger owner and by looking at the parts listing on this website, there is some disparity between the diagram and what the corresponding parts are called. Is the luger receiver the portion of the gun that the barrel is screwed into, that I would call the slide or is it the grip frame?

03-30-2011, 09:29 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	Welcome to the forum I think 'receiver' because it is stationary, a slide moves back and forth (ala a 1911A1) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-30-2011, 10:04 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	This information may or may not be beyond your question, but you should know that in the eyes of the BATFE, the grip frame is the controlled serial numbered part... not the upper receiver... Personally I think it should be the upper receiver since you can fire a single shot without the grip frame installed... (NOTE: THIS PRACTICE IS NOT RECOMMENDED!) ...but unfortunately I am not paid to make decisions for the BATFE... Welcome to the Lugerforum! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-31-2011, 12:40 PM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Smith, By definitioin, the receiver is the part that contains the sear. Since the Luger and the Ruger .22 pistols are the only two hhhhpistols that come to mind where the receiver is not the frame, perhaps that's why the ATF has over looked these. In Europe, most countries consider the barrel the controlled part. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-30-2011, 08:25 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Welcome! The receiver would be the part the barrel screws into.

03-30-2011, 10:23 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	As John pointed out, there is no rhyme or reason to BATF's determinations. Examples; AR15/M16- Lower receiver, (pistol grip area) is controlled part FN FAL- Upper receiver is controlled part M79 grenade launcher- BARREL is controlled part!!

03-31-2011, 08:24 AM	#6
smithwr3 New User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great thanks for the info. I should have mentioned in my original post that I was looking for what BATFE calls the "receiver".