Help with my granddad's Luger

BigDan · 09-13-2009, 07:17 PM

This Luger belonged to my grandfather, he died before I was born, so I don't know anything about it. I think it's a P08 commercial, and all serial numbers match. Could you gentlemen help me with the guns age, approximate value, and any other information you might have. Thanks

Edward Tinker · 09-13-2009, 08:02 PM

You are correct, it is a commericial luger, commonlly called an "alphabet" luger, made in the mid 1920's for export to the USA (see the Germany stamping).

I presume it is in 7.65mm caliber?

Value is harder to say, it is reallly in excellent shape, which can help value.

I normally would say about $1000-$1200 for a commercial luger, but I think $1400-$1500 would be about right.

ed

BigDan · 09-13-2009, 09:12 PM

Ed, thanks for your help

Yes it is a 7.65mm

MFC · 09-13-2009, 11:48 PM

According to Jan Still's Weimar Lugers, #1906n was made in 1924, if you assume an even rate of production throughout the year. The GERMANY marked mag is worth around $200 alone.

sheepherder · 09-14-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MFC

The GERMANY marked mag is worth around $200 alone.

MFC, you have tweaked my curiosity...Why is an "import" marked mag worth that much??? Would that be more or less than the same mag without the inport marking???

MFC · 09-15-2009, 01:01 AM

Pistino,
The mags are the same except for the GERMANY stamp. The stamp is the same as GERMANY stamped commercial Lugers, so it doesn't detract from the value. It is beleived by some collectors that they are replacement or second mags. They are far fewer of them than the the blank bottom mags you normally see in commercial Lugers. I haven't seen one sell recently on any of the forums or auction sites. $200 range is what they used to sell for a year or two ago.

Ron Wood · 09-15-2009, 01:46 AM

Postino,
The magazines are not "import" marked, they are "export" marked. Unlike today's import marked Lugers that have markings applied in the U.S. by the importer, these original magazines were marked in Germany for export to English speaking countries.

Edward Tinker · 09-15-2009, 08:52 AM

The mag bottom is one reason I based my estimation onvalue, the mag bottom is very nice, and the gun is too. Usually these american imported commercials are not worth as much as say a military, but this one is in very nice shape (AS IS THE MAG)

Ed

alvin · 09-15-2009, 08:32 PM

Import mark could be positive. If it had "Stoeger", it would bring more. But now the problem is... how do I know that "Stoeger" mark being real?

09-13-2009, 08:02 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	You are correct, it is a commericial luger, commonlly called an "alphabet" luger, made in the mid 1920's for export to the USA (see the Germany stamping). I presume it is in 7.65mm caliber? Value is harder to say, it is reallly in excellent shape, which can help value. I normally would say about $1000-$1200 for a commercial luger, but I think $1400-$1500 would be about right. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-13-2009, 11:48 PM	#4
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	According to Jan Still's Weimar Lugers, #1906n was made in 1924, if you assume an even rate of production throughout the year. The GERMANY marked mag is worth around $200 alone. __________________ Mike C.

09-15-2009, 01:01 AM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Pistino, The mags are the same except for the GERMANY stamp. The stamp is the same as GERMANY stamped commercial Lugers, so it doesn't detract from the value. It is beleived by some collectors that they are replacement or second mags. They are far fewer of them than the the blank bottom mags you normally see in commercial Lugers. I haven't seen one sell recently on any of the forums or auction sites. $200 range is what they used to sell for a year or two ago. __________________ Mike C.

09-15-2009, 01:46 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Postino, The magazines are not "import" marked, they are "export" marked. Unlike today's import marked Lugers that have markings applied in the U.S. by the importer, these original magazines were marked in Germany for export to English speaking countries. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-15-2009, 08:52 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	The mag bottom is one reason I based my estimation onvalue, the mag bottom is very nice, and the gun is too. Usually these american imported commercials are not worth as much as say a military, but this one is in very nice shape (AS IS THE MAG) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-13-2009, 07:17 PM	#1
BigDan New User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help with my granddad's Luger This Luger belonged to my grandfather, he died before I was born, so I don't know anything about it. I think it's a P08 commercial, and all serial numbers match. Could you gentlemen help me with the guns age, approximate value, and any other information you might have. Thanks Attached Thumbnails

09-13-2009, 09:12 PM	#3
BigDan New User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, thanks for your help Yes it is a 7.65mm

09-15-2009, 08:32 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Import mark could be positive. If it had "Stoeger", it would bring more. But now the problem is... how do I know that "Stoeger" mark being real?