stoeger luger

kim32321 · 02-21-2008, 10:13 AM

Hi all, I'm new to the luger and i've just traded into a stoeger luger 22. I've done a little research before finding this site and haven't found another pistol just like this one. i'll try a describe the best i can and any info would be greatly appreciated. it has a parkerized finish, and on the right side of the frame it has stoeger with s. hackensack, new jersey in small letters, it doesn't have made in the usa. It has two indents on the left side for fire and safe with fire being a red dot, nothing on the right side where others have f and s. it has 22 l.r. under the barrel on the left side and an emblem on the top behind the latch. the S/N starts with CL xxxxxx which is also on the left side. It's a great shooter after i found what ammo it liked and i think this could be the start of an expensive hobbie. i always thought i'ld like a luger and this one feels great to shoot. thanks for any info...

kim32321 · 02-21-2008, 11:05 AM

I'll try and get some pics on ASAP..

John Sabato · 02-21-2008, 12:14 PM

Kim,

First of all, Welcome to the Lugerforum! During the 1970's there were a few attempts at producing a .22 caliber "Luger"

The Stoeger version was just one of them... but it is the only one of the .22 clones that can be called a Luger because Stoeger has owned the trademarked name "Luger" since the 1920's...

But the name and shape is about all of the pistol that is actually Luger in nature. The pistol is a blow-back and not a locked breech and the toggle is really just to make it look like a Luger.

I hope that you can keep it performing well for you, because these pistols never had a good reputation for reliability... perhaps yours is an exception.

The other brands of .22 Luger look-a-likes are generally shunned by centerfire Luger owners... I hope your .22 Stoeger Luger encourages you to get one of the original Lugers. They are unbelievably accurate and a joy to shoot.

Alx · 02-23-2008, 12:50 AM

Agreed that almost all of the .22 caliber Luger copy guns are mostly problematical, badly out of proportion to the original Luger shape, and poorly made of inferior metals, with one exception.

The smaller Erma KGP series of guns are all steel, and quality made, the .22 cal. KGP69 being of course a blow-back, but using a true toggle action, and having a nearly exact scaled profile to the P08. The internal design of the trigger and sear is more typical and lacks the P08 side plate and sear, both sides of the KGP69 looking the same, and similar to the right side of a P08. The designers kept the basic look of the Luger intact.
I have several of these German Erma KGP69 guns, the best being those made during the years when they were imported by Excam in Hialeah, FL., and not to be confused with the larger Erma .22 Luger copies designated LA22, EP22, etc. Those larger Ermas are, as John said, problematical like most Stoeger examples.

02-21-2008, 10:13 AM	#1
kim32321 New User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: north florida Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	stoeger luger Hi all, I'm new to the luger and i've just traded into a stoeger luger 22. I've done a little research before finding this site and haven't found another pistol just like this one. i'll try a describe the best i can and any info would be greatly appreciated. it has a parkerized finish, and on the right side of the frame it has stoeger with s. hackensack, new jersey in small letters, it doesn't have made in the usa. It has two indents on the left side for fire and safe with fire being a red dot, nothing on the right side where others have f and s. it has 22 l.r. under the barrel on the left side and an emblem on the top behind the latch. the S/N starts with CL xxxxxx which is also on the left side. It's a great shooter after i found what ammo it liked and i think this could be the start of an expensive hobbie. i always thought i'ld like a luger and this one feels great to shoot. thanks for any info...

02-21-2008, 12:14 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Kim, First of all, Welcome to the Lugerforum! During the 1970's there were a few attempts at producing a .22 caliber "Luger" The Stoeger version was just one of them... but it is the only one of the .22 clones that can be called a Luger because Stoeger has owned the trademarked name "Luger" since the 1920's... But the name and shape is about all of the pistol that is actually Luger in nature. The pistol is a blow-back and not a locked breech and the toggle is really just to make it look like a Luger. I hope that you can keep it performing well for you, because these pistols never had a good reputation for reliability... perhaps yours is an exception. The other brands of .22 Luger look-a-likes are generally shunned by centerfire Luger owners... I hope your .22 Stoeger Luger encourages you to get one of the original Lugers. They are unbelievably accurate and a joy to shoot. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-21-2008, 11:05 AM	#2
kim32321 New User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: north florida Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll try and get some pics on ASAP..

02-23-2008, 12:50 AM	#4
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Agreed that almost all of the .22 caliber Luger copy guns are mostly problematical, badly out of proportion to the original Luger shape, and poorly made of inferior metals, with one exception. The smaller Erma KGP series of guns are all steel, and quality made, the .22 cal. KGP69 being of course a blow-back, but using a true toggle action, and having a nearly exact scaled profile to the P08. The internal design of the trigger and sear is more typical and lacks the P08 side plate and sear, both sides of the KGP69 looking the same, and similar to the right side of a P08. The designers kept the basic look of the Luger intact. I have several of these German Erma KGP69 guns, the best being those made during the years when they were imported by Excam in Hialeah, FL., and not to be confused with the larger Erma .22 Luger copies designated LA22, EP22, etc. Those larger Ermas are, as John said, problematical like most Stoeger examples.