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Unread 11-21-2007, 08:53 PM   #1
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Default So i think i killed my glock....

Not lugers but yeah to all the gun people out there. i bought a new york trigger and was trying to install it in my Glock model 22. well i got the spring in and reassembled my gun. However.... i wasn't paying attention and didn't realize i hadn't put the pin back in the grip of the gun that holds the trigger mechanism in place so when i put the gun back together and tried to pull the trigger it wouldn't click, it just went back. so when i tried to field strip the gun. it wouldn't let the slide come off the frame, it only goes forward about an inch forward... so then i panicked and removed the other two pins in the frame and that still wouldn't let the gun's slide come off. so when i put the two pins i did have back in the frame the slide now locks back when i pull it back, even without the mag inserted... i have no clue what ive done to screw my gun up but i am freaking out pretty bad.... idk whats going on or why the slide is locking back when nothing is in the gun. o.O and also i can't find that third pin.... so i can't even get the trigger block or whatever to stay locked in place so i can't even get the gun to even strip. Can anyone help me out or tell me whats going on or what ive done to screw up my gun....
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Unread 11-21-2007, 11:28 PM   #2
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Personally, I don't own a Glock. I'm not a real big fan for many reasons, their basic design is one of them. Maybe it's better off dead.

Have you considered something in a nice 1911?
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Unread 11-22-2007, 01:37 PM   #3
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Sounds like the adventure we had with a Sig Sauer Mosquito in .22. Basically we had to pry all bits off until there was room enough to remove the offending pin. Then we shipped the bag full of parts to a good gunsmith for correct reassembly. We needed 4 hands and some tiny tools to get to that stage, though...
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Unread 11-22-2007, 03:21 PM   #4
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Personally, I don't own a Glock. I'm not a real big fan for many reasons, their basic design is one of them. Maybe it's better off dead.

Have you considered something in a nice 1911?
lol whoa such harsh feelings toward a Glock! Just out of curiosity what do you have problems with? They even have a .45acp glock (G21), which holds more than just 7 rounds .. 13 I believe.


As for the fellow that has problems with his glock, I believe there is a youtube video that shows you how to detail strip your glock and put it back together again.. that or you could always take it to a gun smith.

Becareful if you decide to mess around with it though!
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Unread 11-23-2007, 03:34 PM   #5
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Glocks: people love em or hate em mostly.
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Unread 11-23-2007, 04:08 PM   #6
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lol whoa such harsh feelings toward a Glock! Just out of curiosity what do you have problems with?
Well, since you asked...

1) The tigger is absolute junk, IMHO. Having to pull on a trigger before you can pull on the trigger is just silly (at best). Maybe it's just me (and half of the rest of the world) but I just never could get used to it. I'm sure that with a lot of practice I could break myself of the habits I've formed over the years, but then I woudn't be able to shoot any other type of gun.

2) There have been more NG's with the Glock than with all other types of military and police issue guns combined. The safety features are notoriously unsafe.

3) I've heard of the frames wearing out and fracturing under heavy use. Although kind of a minor point for most people (I do mean heavy use) it kind of sticks in my craw a bit.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a lot like Ford and Chevy. Some people just like one over the other and sometimes for no good reasons. If the Glock floats your boat, buy the heck out of 'em, knock yourself out! They're just not for me...

PS If I could hit the broadside of a barn with the Glock, my opinion might be very different...
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Unread 11-23-2007, 06:54 PM   #7
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I fired a Glock for the first time earlier this year. I was stunned. I absolutely have no idea whatsoever why they are popular.
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Unread 11-23-2007, 10:15 PM   #8
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I fired a Glock for the first time earlier this year. I was stunned. I absolutely have no idea whatsoever why they are popular.
Words you will never, EVER hear: "Would you like to see my Glock collection?"
Bingo! I have a Glock 17 I got from my father.
I can't stand it.
I don't he liked it much either, I don't remember him shooting it more than a couple of times.

I too just don't get Glocks either.
After shooting one I do now understand why I hear about police firing dozens of rounds without hitting anything!
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Unread 11-24-2007, 01:37 AM   #9
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The Glock is simple, it does what it was designed to do:

Pull the trigger - it goes bang.
Don't pull the trigger - it doesn't.

That's about all your military or police user wants these days - accuracy isn't much of a priority, frankly. The trigger pull is quite long indeed. Target guns they ain't - those "target" models are pretty contrived - the gun is designed for "social" shooting up close and personal.
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1) The tigger is absolute junk, IMHO. Having to pull on a trigger before you can pull on the trigger is just silly (at best). Maybe it's just me (and half of the rest of the world) but I just never could get used to it. I'm sure that with a lot of practice I could break myself of the habits I've formed over the years, but then I woudn't be able to shoot any other type of gun.

3) I've heard of the frames wearing out and fracturing under heavy use. Although kind of a minor point for most people (I do mean heavy use) it kind of sticks in my craw a bit.

PS If I could hit the broadside of a barn with the Glock, my opinion might be very different...
That is very interesting. Before we debate this any further I must say you are right on one thing. If a Glock isn't for you, it isn't for you. Just like any other gun.

As far as the trigger goes, that was one feature I HATED until I actually tried it. I totally forgot about it, it was barely even noticable. I don't really see how it adds safety, I guess it helps if you want to holster it with a round chambered.

Accuracy was okay, but wasn't great. However, I have only tried a Glock 19 and the barrel is pretty short on those. I shoot a lot better with it than my Beretta 92S which I cannot aim for SH*T with.

I will defend Glocks until I die, yet I don't even own one yet lol. All I can say is they function VERY well under harsh conditions, the rifleing is made for easy cleaning and for minimal build up of lead or carbon? not to mention they are very simple and easy to use. plus they have hi-cap mags for all your zombie huntin needs!

Quick question, what do you guys like best for tactical shooting? Favorite moderm semi-auto handgun? cause you are obviously not Glock men.
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Unread 11-24-2007, 08:40 AM   #11
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I own alot of Lugers,alot of 1911s,alot of S&W revolvers.alot of all kinds of pistols,and only one Glock. Its all I carry. nuff said. c
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Unread 11-24-2007, 08:55 AM   #12
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Quick question, what do you guys like best for tactical shooting? Favorite moderm semi-auto handgun? cause you are obviously not Glock men.
I favor the 1911 for tactical shooting. There are HiCap mags for it too, including a 50 round drum! (much too heavy and bulky to be practical...)

I carry an AK pistol with the 75 round drum. Tough to conceal but it hits real well...



Just kidding... I carry a S&W Chiefs Special in .45. It's light, big bore and I shoot it well out to about twenty yards, as far as I might expect to address the bad guy.

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"I own alot of Lugers,alot of 1911s,alot of S&W revolvers.alot of all kinds of pistols,and only one Glock. Its all I carry. nuff said." c3006

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I own alot of Lugers,alot of 1911s,alot of S&W revolvers.alot of all kinds of pistols,and only one Glock. Its all I carry. nuff said. c
You both might well think that's ";nuff said", but I wonder why it is.

Are there any specific reasons that's what you carry?

Granted, I don't (usually) carry a 1911 either because they're too big and heavy for CCW. Lugers, of course, would be a poor choice for CCW too.

So what is it about the Glock that you Glock guys like?

Yes, they go bang when you pull the trigger but so do a hundred other guns.

Yes, they are relatively light weight, but so are a hundred other guns.

Yes, you can get them in calibers over .38, but the same is true of a hundred other guns.

Yes, you can get HiCap mags for them, but.... well, you know.

So what is it that you like about the Glock that is offered by no other maker? Given the Glocks poor track record on safety, I just have to scratch my head on that one...
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>>Given the Glocks poor track record on safety

Well, now, you've got me on this one. Do Glocks have a "poor track record on safety"? The only problem I ever saw was a bunch of ADs (accidental discharges) when the DC Police bought them in the early 1990s. Seems that officers, new to auto pistols, were checking their loaded status by pulling the trigger. Naturally, they later claimed that the Easter Bunny or space aliens caused the AD. A buddy of mine was in their IAD (Internal Affairs Division - cops who investigate other cops) unit, and they investigated each AD and always determined that the officer had in fact pulled the trigger.

So, I use a Glock for all the reasons you listed: go bang, light weight, big bores, hi-caps - and you might add compact size and simple controls... plus, the pistol points very well for me personally.
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You both might well think that's ";nuff said", but I wonder why it is.

So what is it about the Glock that you Glock guys like?

Yes, they go bang when you pull the trigger but so do a hundred other guns.

Yes, they are relatively light weight, but so are a hundred other guns.

Yes, you can get them in calibers over .38, but the same is true of a hundred other guns.

Yes, you can get HiCap mags for them, but.... well, you know.

So what is it that you like about the Glock that is offered by no other maker? Given the Glocks poor track record on safety, I just have to scratch my head on that one...
First I have to say, I LOVE your AK! In Canada that is one thing we are just not allowed to have... even the select few that have the prohibited status are still only allowed to use a pinned 5 round mag.... which makes it just as scary as an sks!

As far as the Glocks go, we just need a little time to convert you! Soon you willl be one of us! GLOCK

What I like about the Glock is this... It all started with the Glock 17, but that isn't for everyone, so without changing the appearance they were able to make many different sizes, calibres and mag caps. There is about a dozen different calibres almost all of which have a baby glock for concealment carry. There is even 2 different .45 acp baby glocks, one is slim-line so it is easier to hold for small handed people (basically a single stack version).

As far as safety issues, I would say Glock is one of the safer pisols out there. It has a drop safety, trigger safety and aparently one more. lol Yes it is true, if you pull the trigger with a round in the chamber you WILL hear a "BANG!".

Agian I must say, your AK pistol is really something Do you make them yourself? Any chance of mailing one to Canada?? lol
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Sorry we took your post out in left field. Alot of gunshops have someone working there that has been thru the glock armorers course and can probably help you. If that can not be worked out send it back to glock and they will take care of it free of charge. as far as glock safety I remember a few years ago he in TN we had a officer shoot a perp he was chasing and claimed the pistol fired on its own. Gaston came over and proved in court that it was impossible. Don't pull the trigger they wont go off,how could anything be safer. c
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Or just go ahead and get a CZ...you'll never look back.
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Here is a description of a real Glock AD:
http://www.alphecca.com/mt_alphecca_...es/002052.html

Never would have imagined this could happen.

Lesson:
Don't hang your balls out when shooting a Glock .

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Curious way this guy that runs the web site descibes himself...

"...by a politically independent, libertarian, gay gun nut in Vermont..."

Did not think all those could occur in the same body...
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