First Luger

joeseph · 02-09-2006, 07:26 PM

I received my 1st luger today, one I'd seen at a show and then ordered a few weeks later.
It's a 1915DWM. I of course have many questions. All external numbers match, the bore is crisp and bright, about 90% bluing remains (my estimate ) the seller claimed 97% but I don't think so. The grips are really excellent perhaps too excellent for the piece and they are not numbered. Serial no. is 5496h The front grip strap is marked 4. E. M. G. K. From forum research this would seem to mean 4th ersatz machiene gun companie. Most of the other unit markings I've seen are longer with individual gun numbers??? The mag has an unmarked wood base but the toggles on it do not center well in the grip cutout area and are being dug into, the mag itself looks old and well used.
I bought this thinking it might have some collector value but perhaps its a shooter. Any insights you can provide will be a great help. Hopfully this is the first of many.
I hope the photos work
Thanks
Joe

joeseph · 02-09-2006, 07:27 PM

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joeseph · 02-09-2006, 07:28 PM

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Ron Smith · 02-09-2006, 10:16 PM

Hi Joe,
Welcome to the forum. A very nice 1915.

The marking would be, 4th Erzatz Regiment Machinegun Company. In the beginning of the war each Reg. only had one machingun company. So they didn't really deem it a requirement to mark the weapon number on them.

And definitely a collector grade Luger. Far from being just a shooter. From your photos, I would give it a scant 95%. Better than 90% from what I can see. The grip strap wear, or lack of wear is a big plus as far as condition grading goes.

Congratualtions~

Ron

LU1900 · 02-10-2006, 06:22 AM

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joeseph · 02-11-2006, 08:59 PM

Thanks very much for the information about my purchase. I'ts great to have acess to such a source of knowledge.
I will be in france ( paris and limoge ) week after next. Are there any recomendations you can make regarding lugers during my visit?
Thanks again to you both
Joe

jcompton69 · 02-14-2006, 11:35 AM

Hi, I am also new to the luger. I just purchased a DWM 1916/1920 with the same unit markings , 4E.M.G.K. 18A.K. , on Gun Broker.

Jeff

John Sabato · 02-14-2006, 11:39 AM

Jeff,

Welcome to the Lugerforum... please post photos of your "new" Luger

Lugerlover · 02-14-2006, 02:13 PM

I own the 1916 Erfurt that Pat posted above. Isn't it unusual to find two Lugers with the same unit markings? Is this marking just assigning the gun to a certain unit without giving the gun itself a number? I've never seen this before.
regards,
Bill

LU1900 · 02-14-2006, 05:47 PM

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wworker · 02-14-2006, 07:21 PM

Nice Luger.

joeseph, collecting Lugers is a very addictive hobby.

Proceed with caution.

Herb · 02-14-2006, 09:14 PM

LU1900, you might attempt to contact Jeff Noll and ask if he would like to share your knowledge, he may be working on a new book and would like to have that info.

02-09-2006, 07:26 PM	#1
joeseph User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First Luger I received my 1st luger today, one I'd seen at a show and then ordered a few weeks later. It's a 1915DWM. I of course have many questions. All external numbers match, the bore is crisp and bright, about 90% bluing remains (my estimate ) the seller claimed 97% but I don't think so. The grips are really excellent perhaps too excellent for the piece and they are not numbered. Serial no. is 5496h The front grip strap is marked 4. E. M. G. K. From forum research this would seem to mean 4th ersatz machiene gun companie. Most of the other unit markings I've seen are longer with individual gun numbers??? The mag has an unmarked wood base but the toggles on it do not center well in the grip cutout area and are being dug into, the mag itself looks old and well used. I bought this thinking it might have some collector value but perhaps its a shooter. Any insights you can provide will be a great help. Hopfully this is the first of many. I hope the photos work Thanks Joe Attached Images

02-09-2006, 07:27 PM	#2
joeseph User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	More pics More pics Attached Thumbnails

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Joe, Welcome to the forum. A very nice 1915. The marking would be, 4th Erzatz Regiment Machinegun Company. In the beginning of the war each Reg. only had one machingun company. So they didn't really deem it a requirement to mark the weapon number on them. And definitely a collector grade Luger. Far from being just a shooter. From your photos, I would give it a scant 95%. Better than 90% from what I can see. The grip strap wear, or lack of wear is a big plus as far as condition grading goes. Congratualtions~ Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-10-2006, 06:22 AM	#5
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 912 Thanks: 46 Thanked 473 Times in 199 Posts	......... __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

02-11-2006, 08:59 PM	#6
joeseph User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks very much for the information about my purchase. I'ts great to have acess to such a source of knowledge. I will be in france ( paris and limoge ) week after next. Are there any recomendations you can make regarding lugers during my visit? Thanks again to you both Joe

02-14-2006, 11:35 AM	#7
jcompton69 New User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, I am also new to the luger. I just purchased a DWM 1916/1920 with the same unit markings , 4E.M.G.K. 18A.K. , on Gun Broker. Jeff

02-14-2006, 11:39 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Jeff, Welcome to the Lugerforum... please post photos of your "new" Luger __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-14-2006, 02:13 PM	#9
Lugerlover User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I own the 1916 Erfurt that Pat posted above. Isn't it unusual to find two Lugers with the same unit markings? Is this marking just assigning the gun to a certain unit without giving the gun itself a number? I've never seen this before. regards, Bill

02-14-2006, 05:47 PM	#10
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 912 Thanks: 46 Thanked 473 Times in 199 Posts	............ __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

02-14-2006, 07:21 PM	#11
wworker User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice Luger. joeseph, collecting Lugers is a very addictive hobby. Proceed with caution.

02-14-2006, 09:14 PM	#12
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	LU1900, you might attempt to contact Jeff Noll and ask if he would like to share your knowledge, he may be working on a new book and would like to have that info. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull