Navy holster opinions

jens thune · 11-17-2012, 09:19 AM

Hi all, im new to this forum..
I got this holster from my grandfather many years ago and I would like to get your opinions on it as I have zero knowledge in this field..

Also what would a fair price be for a holster and mag pouch be in this condition?

All the best
Jens

jens thune · 11-17-2012, 09:25 AM

If more pictures is needed just let me know and I will do the best I can with my phonecamera..

Jens

Norme · 11-17-2012, 09:38 AM

Hi Jens, Welcome to the forum! All Imperial Navy equipment is rare and desirable. Both your holster and pouch are what collectors call Type 2, designed to be belt worn and introduced late in the war for Naval Marines fighting in Flanders. Both the holster and pouch were brown originally, but were dyed black, probably late in 1916. Unfortunately, the holster is missing the tool pouch and the lid for the cleaning rod sheath. May we see a close-up of the maker's mark on the pouch and a photo of the cleaning rod? Regards, Norm

cirelaw · 11-17-2012, 10:02 AM

I have sent him a lot worse!

jens thune · 11-17-2012, 10:21 AM

Here are more pictures.. I cant find any stamps on the cleaning rod

lugerholsterrepair · 11-17-2012, 12:13 PM

Jens..I have a client who just bought one almost identical to this only in much better surface condition.
Yours in this condition..missing parts needing restoration etc. is worth about $500-600 IMO. The rod is likely good but would have to have closeup photo's to absolutely authenticate it. Is the rod steel?

The double magazine pouch is a nice one and nicely marked..a type 2 like Norm says. In decent condition. I would be happy to pay $350 for it but it might bring more on the open market.

jens thune · 11-17-2012, 01:22 PM

Jerry, the rod is steel yes

Thanks to all who has posted on this thread I really appreciate it..

Jens

lugerholsterrepair · 11-17-2012, 01:47 PM

Jens..The rod looks original and from what I know about late rods..correct for the 1918 period. The brass zig zag rod was known to be earlier and steel was the more available material later in the war.
Stands to reason that brass would be an important strategic metal and wasted on something as mundane as a pistol cleaning rod.

If this rod proves to be authentic and I have not much reason to doubt it..I would value it at $350-400 and again..in the right venue it could go higher.

These prices quoted are what I would pay if I found these items available to me at a gunshow.

CAP Black · 11-17-2012, 09:48 PM

I'll get in line for a chance to show interest.
Jack

jens thune · 11-18-2012, 11:59 AM

Thanks.. I know that the cleaning rod and holster has been togheter sins 1945 but if it is a replacement for the original ww1 rod I cant say..

Many thanks again for your help..

Jens

11-17-2012, 09:19 AM	#1
jens thune User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Navy holster opinions Hi all, im new to this forum.. I got this holster from my grandfather many years ago and I would like to get your opinions on it as I have zero knowledge in this field.. Also what would a fair price be for a holster and mag pouch be in this condition? All the best Jens Attached Thumbnails

11-17-2012, 10:02 AM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Looks like A Job For Doctor Jerry! I have sent him a lot worse!

11-17-2012, 10:21 AM	#5
jens thune User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are more pictures.. I cant find any stamps on the cleaning rod Attached Thumbnails

11-17-2012, 12:13 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jens..I have a client who just bought one almost identical to this only in much better surface condition. Yours in this condition..missing parts needing restoration etc. is worth about $500-600 IMO. The rod is likely good but would have to have closeup photo's to absolutely authenticate it. Is the rod steel? The double magazine pouch is a nice one and nicely marked..a type 2 like Norm says. In decent condition. I would be happy to pay $350 for it but it might bring more on the open market. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-17-2012, 01:47 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jens..The rod looks original and from what I know about late rods..correct for the 1918 period. The brass zig zag rod was known to be earlier and steel was the more available material later in the war. Stands to reason that brass would be an important strategic metal and wasted on something as mundane as a pistol cleaning rod. If this rod proves to be authentic and I have not much reason to doubt it..I would value it at $350-400 and again..in the right venue it could go higher. These prices quoted are what I would pay if I found these items available to me at a gunshow. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-17-2012, 09:25 AM	#2
jens thune User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If more pictures is needed just let me know and I will do the best I can with my phonecamera.. Jens

11-17-2012, 09:38 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Jens, Welcome to the forum! All Imperial Navy equipment is rare and desirable. Both your holster and pouch are what collectors call Type 2, designed to be belt worn and introduced late in the war for Naval Marines fighting in Flanders. Both the holster and pouch were brown originally, but were dyed black, probably late in 1916. Unfortunately, the holster is missing the tool pouch and the lid for the cleaning rod sheath. May we see a close-up of the maker's mark on the pouch and a photo of the cleaning rod? Regards, Norm

11-17-2012, 01:22 PM	#7
jens thune User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jerry, the rod is steel yes Thanks to all who has posted on this thread I really appreciate it.. Jens

11-17-2012, 09:48 PM	#9
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I'll get in line for a chance to show interest. Jack

11-18-2012, 11:59 AM	#10
jens thune User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks.. I know that the cleaning rod and holster has been togheter sins 1945 but if it is a replacement for the original ww1 rod I cant say.. Many thanks again for your help.. Jens