New Acquisition From NGD 2008

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:40 PM

HereÃ¢??s my latest acquisition from NGD 2008, Louisville, KY. I bought the rig from another collector. It has original era leather straps, boots, etc. It even came with an unmarked takedown tool (correct) and an unmarked all steel cleaning rod. These were just the icings on the cake.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:42 PM

DWM LP.08 1917 Chamber Dated Artillery Luger, S/N 7057f. All matching, except magazine. It came with a beech wood Ã¢??+Ã¢?Â bottomed magazine, which I switched out with an un-numbered imperial proofed beech wood mag I had in surplus. 1917 DWM LP.08 are the most commonly encountered LP.08. Jan StillÃ¢??s, Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, 2nd Printing, 1994, estimates production at 90,000 units.

Left side of pistol. Cleaning rod and takedown tool which were included in the purchase.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:43 PM

Right side of pistol.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:46 PM

Left side and right side close ups, showing s/n's and proofs.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0883.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0884.jpg

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:53 PM

S/N on frame and barrel. Halos on S/N on the barrel. Photo of chamber and fine tune rear sight. '17 DWM LP.08 came with a combination of and/or front/rear fine tune or no fine tune sights.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0885.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0886.jpg

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:55 PM

What makes this 1917 DWM LP.08 special and on the scarce side is the unit mark on the front grip strap. Ã¢??R.J.R.72.7.11.Ã¢?? or 72nd Reserve Infantry 7th Company Weapon # 11. According to StillÃ¢??s Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, 1994, regimental marked 1917 DWM LP.08Ã¢??s are approximately 1% of total production.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:57 PM

Overall, it is a clean honest Ã¢??17 Arty that hasnÃ¢??t been messed with. The grip panels are numbered to the pistol. Here is a photo of the pistol with the right grip panel removed.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 03:59 PM

Maker marked and "1918" Dated artillery holster.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 04:00 PM

Marked closure strap.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 04:02 PM

Imperial proofed shoulder stock.

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 04:05 PM

And finally, the candle on the icings of the cake: The stock iron is serial numbered to the pistol.

crc · 03-02-2008, 04:25 PM

Joe
Vary nice indeed I would be smiling too. Thank you for sharing.

Regards Randy.

tenbears · 03-02-2008, 04:34 PM

A complete artillery rig is always a great find, congrats. Your cleaning rod appears to have a birch barrel along with the magazine base. The boot cup strap is a early one due to all stiching no rivets. The marked closeure strap appears to be of latter made due to the rivets no big deal it's still orginal. Is their a name or rank penciled in on the stock under the holster? A lot of times you will see this. A all matching stock and LPO8 along with the orginal carry straps is indeed a great find.

mauro · 03-02-2008, 04:35 PM

Nice rig!

Edward Tinker · 03-02-2008, 04:52 PM

very nice, something to be proud of.

Ed

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 04:56 PM

Thanks for the replies Gents! It's been more than a week and I still got an ear to ear grin. The leather is a mixture of early and later but how often do you see these 90+ year old leather parts come on a rig up for sale. The first thing I did when I got it home was pull it apart and condition the leather. The straps and boot are not in the best shape and require a little TLC. No pencil /ink markings on the shoulder stock. On back on the holster is the Imperial proof C/III.

Joe Pirolo

lugerholsterrepair · 03-02-2008, 05:55 PM

Joe, Yes!!! Really a very beautiful complete rig. Only thing missing is the EM belt, buckle and a double magazine pouch to complete it!
Something to be proud of to be sure!
I don't see where you say the magazine is matching?
Also I have several of the WALZ marked stock straps...I don't know that I know what these indicate?
Most marked Artillery leathers are marked Maurey & Co. if they are marked at all.
Jerry Burney

JoeP.08 · 03-02-2008, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the reply Jerry. Unfortunately no matching magazine. Would have been nice though! The pistol came with a beech wood serial numbered "+" magazine. I switched it out with an un-numbered Imperial proofed beech wood mag I had laying around. It was the best SOS/NGD I've been to in the past four years! I posted some pictures I took at SOS over on "Gun Show Announcements & Discussion". Were you able to make it KY?

Joe Pirolo

luger11 · 03-02-2008, 07:02 PM

Joe; Great shots of a beautiful rig. I also am still grinning ear to ear as I had the pleasure of being with you when you found this treasure.

Leo

luger11 · 03-02-2008, 07:02 PM

Joe; Great shots of a beautiful rig. I also am still grinning ear to ear as I had the pleasure of being with you when you found this treasure.

Leo

03-02-2008, 03:40 PM	#1
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	New Acquisition From NGD 2008 HereÃ¢??s my latest acquisition from NGD 2008, Louisville, KY. I bought the rig from another collector. It has original era leather straps, boots, etc. It even came with an unmarked takedown tool (correct) and an unmarked all steel cleaning rod. These were just the icings on the cake. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:42 PM	#2
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	DWM LP.08 1917 Chamber Dated Artillery Luger, S/N 7057f. All matching, except magazine. It came with a beech wood Ã¢??+Ã¢?Â bottomed magazine, which I switched out with an un-numbered imperial proofed beech wood mag I had in surplus. 1917 DWM LP.08 are the most commonly encountered LP.08. Jan StillÃ¢??s, Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, 2nd Printing, 1994, estimates production at 90,000 units. Left side of pistol. Cleaning rod and takedown tool which were included in the purchase. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:43 PM	#3
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Right side of pistol. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:46 PM	#4
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Left side and right side close ups, showing s/n's and proofs. http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0883.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0884.jpg __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:53 PM	#5
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	S/N on frame and barrel. Halos on S/N on the barrel. Photo of chamber and fine tune rear sight. '17 DWM LP.08 came with a combination of and/or front/rear fine tune or no fine tune sights. http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0885.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscn0886.jpg __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:55 PM	#6
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What makes this 1917 DWM LP.08 special and on the scarce side is the unit mark on the front grip strap. Ã¢??R.J.R.72.7.11.Ã¢?? or 72nd Reserve Infantry 7th Company Weapon # 11. According to StillÃ¢??s Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, 1994, regimental marked 1917 DWM LP.08Ã¢??s are approximately 1% of total production. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:57 PM	#7
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Overall, it is a clean honest Ã¢??17 Arty that hasnÃ¢??t been messed with. The grip panels are numbered to the pistol. Here is a photo of the pistol with the right grip panel removed. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 03:59 PM	#8
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Maker marked and "1918" Dated artillery holster. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 04:00 PM	#9
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Marked closure strap. Attached Images __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 04:02 PM	#10
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Imperial proofed shoulder stock. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 04:05 PM	#11
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	And finally, the candle on the icings of the cake: The stock iron is serial numbered to the pistol. Attached Images __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 04:25 PM	#12
crc User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: colorado Posts: 66 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Joe Vary nice indeed I would be smiling too. Thank you for sharing. Regards Randy.

03-02-2008, 04:34 PM	#13
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	A complete artillery rig is always a great find, congrats. Your cleaning rod appears to have a birch barrel along with the magazine base. The boot cup strap is a early one due to all stiching no rivets. The marked closeure strap appears to be of latter made due to the rivets no big deal it's still orginal. Is their a name or rank penciled in on the stock under the holster? A lot of times you will see this. A all matching stock and LPO8 along with the orginal carry straps is indeed a great find.

03-02-2008, 04:35 PM	#14
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Nice rig! __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

03-02-2008, 04:52 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	very nice, something to be proud of. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-02-2008, 04:56 PM	#16
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the replies Gents! It's been more than a week and I still got an ear to ear grin. The leather is a mixture of early and later but how often do you see these 90+ year old leather parts come on a rig up for sale. The first thing I did when I got it home was pull it apart and condition the leather. The straps and boot are not in the best shape and require a little TLC. No pencil /ink markings on the shoulder stock. On back on the holster is the Imperial proof C/III. Joe Pirolo __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 05:55 PM	#17
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,868 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Joe, Yes!!! Really a very beautiful complete rig. Only thing missing is the EM belt, buckle and a double magazine pouch to complete it! Something to be proud of to be sure! I don't see where you say the magazine is matching? Also I have several of the WALZ marked stock straps...I don't know that I know what these indicate? Most marked Artillery leathers are marked Maurey & Co. if they are marked at all. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-02-2008, 06:22 PM	#18
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the reply Jerry. Unfortunately no matching magazine. Would have been nice though! The pistol came with a beech wood serial numbered "+" magazine. I switched it out with an un-numbered Imperial proofed beech wood mag I had laying around. It was the best SOS/NGD I've been to in the past four years! I posted some pictures I took at SOS over on "Gun Show Announcements & Discussion". Were you able to make it KY? Joe Pirolo __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-02-2008, 07:02 PM	#19
luger11 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Joe; Great shots of a beautiful rig. I also am still grinning ear to ear as I had the pleasure of being with you when you found this treasure. Leo