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Ponchsox · 03-06-2017, 09:08 PM

I just bought my first Luger, a 1910 DWM Luger 9mm, for $850. Visible parts match except for magazine. No import mark. Bore is good with some light pitting towards the muzzle and lands have strong grooves. Can someone tell me if this is a military or commercial model based on serial number? See link for pics.

http://m.imgur.com/a/tIpL7

Norme · 03-06-2017, 09:17 PM

Hi Steve,
Welcome to the forum. Your 1910 DWM is military, only military guns were dated.
Regards, Norm

DavidJayUden · 03-06-2017, 09:17 PM

Things are not so clear pre-WW1. I believe I'm seeing military acceptance marks but commercial style numbers, and that may be common for those days. I think others more wise than myself will say that commercial guns were used for military purposes at that time.
Looks like a good gun and very reasonable priced.
dju

Eugen · 03-06-2017, 09:25 PM

Ponchsox, welcome to the club. Looks like you got a nice Luger for a decent price. I am sure you will enjoy it. Take some close up shots of the stampings on the right front of the receiver so we can clearly see the proofs.

wayne8661 · 03-06-2017, 10:43 PM

Don't think I saw any but are there any markings on the grip strap?
Looks like the hold open has been added .
What does the bottoms of the mag look like?

Thanks
Wayne

Geo99 · 03-07-2017, 03:35 AM

You did very well for your first Luger.

This is a 1910 Amy pistole, not a commercial,and it appears to be correct. 1910 Lugers were numbered commercial style, with hidden numbers on the sideplate, takedown, extractor.

Can you post a picture of the magazine bottom?

- Geo

Ponchsox · 03-07-2017, 07:49 AM

Would you guys feel comfortable shooting this? I'm torn. Picked up a couple Mec Gar mags in case I decide to do so.

wayne8661 · 03-07-2017, 08:53 AM

I would strip it completely to verify that all serial numbers match. If it is all matched I would not shoot it. Guys (including myself) go crazy over the guns without stock lugs.

at $850 I think you did very well and could easily turn it for a profit to buy a shooter grade luger.

Are there any marks on the front grip strap? And still important what does the bottom of the mag look like?

Wayne

Ponchsox · 03-07-2017, 09:11 AM

Wayne, those pictures are from the seller and the pistol is en route to me. Once I get it I will be sure to post a picture.

DonVoigt · 03-07-2017, 09:30 AM

Welcome.
I hope you have a nice luger.
Unfortunately many of us will not go to third party sites to see the pictures.
Please post your pictures on the server here when your luger arrives!

Curly1 · 03-07-2017, 12:31 PM

Welcome to the forum.

JBBOOKS · 03-07-2017, 05:04 PM

Welcome. I am also a new member, everyone here is very helpful and friendly. Check out the FAQ section it helps a lot!

Ponchsox · 03-10-2017, 06:10 PM

Ponchsox · 03-10-2017, 06:12 PM

fury413rb · 04-11-2017, 08:47 AM

I'm a new guy here so I hope you dont mind be posting your images directly from the link for you. perhaps thats what you intended to do? Some people have an aversion to going to third part sites directly.

sheepherder · 04-12-2017, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fury413rb

Some people have an aversion to going to third part sites directly.

Good job in attaching the pics directly!

It's not an 'aversion', it's an impossibility. The various governments [fed, state, local] and corporations that provide the PCs and Internet access block 'social' sites like PhotoBucket, Imgur, SmugMug, etc to keep workers on the job and not 'socializing'. Further, those sites disappear and/or re-organize and the URLs for those offsite pictures change and the pics are lost to us forever.

Here's my weekly post regarding offsite picture linking...and an example of a lost pic...

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Attach your photos directly to your post by using the "Go Advance" button to make your post entry. Then there is a "manage attachments" button to allow you to post your photos.

Photos that are hosted elsewhere, often disappear when the hosting website reorganizes its holdings, or goes out of business.

In addition, many of the more knowledgeable people on this forum are unable to see your photos posted elsewhere because they access the forum from their place of employment where internet web storage sites are filtered or prohibited. If they can't see your photos, they can't offer comments or advice.

Thanks, and welcome to the Lugerforum.

JTD · 04-11-2017, 09:13 AM

Looks like you did well. A nice, honest imperial. Congrats, John

spacecoast · 04-12-2017, 11:43 AM

Very well indeed. The small proof above and behind the trigger on the right side is an indication that the hold open which keeps the toggle open after the last round is fired was added after the order to retrofit those not equipped so was made in mid-1913.

Ron Wood · 04-12-2017, 02:50 PM

Wow! If I could find a gun like that for $850 I would be doing a happy dance. Well done.
Ron

wlyon · 04-12-2017, 02:55 PM

Very good buy. Bill

03-06-2017, 09:08 PM	#1
Ponchsox User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Joined the Luger club today I just bought my first Luger, a 1910 DWM Luger 9mm, for $850. Visible parts match except for magazine. No import mark. Bore is good with some light pitting towards the muzzle and lands have strong grooves. Can someone tell me if this is a military or commercial model based on serial number? See link for pics. http://m.imgur.com/a/tIpL7 Last edited by Ponchsox; 03-06-2017 at 10:22 PM.

03-06-2017, 09:25 PM	#4
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 393 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Ponchsox, welcome to the club. Looks like you got a nice Luger for a decent price. I am sure you will enjoy it. Take some close up shots of the stampings on the right front of the receiver so we can clearly see the proofs. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

03-07-2017, 03:35 AM	#6
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	You did very well for your first Luger. This is a 1910 Amy pistole, not a commercial,and it appears to be correct. 1910 Lugers were numbered commercial style, with hidden numbers on the sideplate, takedown, extractor. Can you post a picture of the magazine bottom? - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

03-07-2017, 09:30 AM	#10
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Welcome. I hope you have a nice luger. Unfortunately many of us will not go to third party sites to see the pictures. Please post your pictures on the server here when your luger arrives! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-07-2017, 12:31 PM	#11
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,241 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	Welcome to the forum. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

03-06-2017, 09:17 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Steve, Welcome to the forum. Your 1910 DWM is military, only military guns were dated. Regards, Norm

03-06-2017, 09:17 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Things are not so clear pre-WW1. I believe I'm seeing military acceptance marks but commercial style numbers, and that may be common for those days. I think others more wise than myself will say that commercial guns were used for military purposes at that time. Looks like a good gun and very reasonable priced. dju

03-06-2017, 10:43 PM	#5
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Don't think I saw any but are there any markings on the grip strap? Looks like the hold open has been added . What does the bottoms of the mag look like? Thanks Wayne

03-07-2017, 07:49 AM	#7
Ponchsox User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Would you guys feel comfortable shooting this? I'm torn. Picked up a couple Mec Gar mags in case I decide to do so.

03-07-2017, 08:53 AM	#8
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I would strip it completely to verify that all serial numbers match. If it is all matched I would not shoot it. Guys (including myself) go crazy over the guns without stock lugs. at $850 I think you did very well and could easily turn it for a profit to buy a shooter grade luger. Are there any marks on the front grip strap? And still important what does the bottom of the mag look like? Wayne

03-07-2017, 09:11 AM	#9
Ponchsox User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wayne, those pictures are from the seller and the pistol is en route to me. Once I get it I will be sure to post a picture.

03-07-2017, 05:04 PM	#12
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Welcome. I am also a new member, everyone here is very helpful and friendly. Check out the FAQ section it helps a lot!

03-10-2017, 06:10 PM	#13
Ponchsox User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

03-10-2017, 06:12 PM	#14
Ponchsox User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

04-11-2017, 08:47 AM	#15
fury413rb User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 15 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts	I'm a new guy here so I hope you dont mind be posting your images directly from the link for you. perhaps thats what you intended to do? Some people have an aversion to going to third part sites directly.

04-11-2017, 09:13 AM	#17
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Looks like you did well. A nice, honest imperial. Congrats, John

04-12-2017, 11:43 AM	#18
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Very well indeed. The small proof above and behind the trigger on the right side is an indication that the hold open which keeps the toggle open after the last round is fired was added after the order to retrofit those not equipped so was made in mid-1913. __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

04-12-2017, 02:50 PM	#19
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	Wow! If I could find a gun like that for $850 I would be doing a happy dance. Well done. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-12-2017, 02:55 PM	#20
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	Very good buy. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon