A Little Bit Off Topic But......

05-07-2002, 09:14 PM

A nice looking Borchartd, Someone here might be able to afford it, I hope so! (Cause I sure can't )! Take A Look!

Borchartd

Ron Wood · 05-07-2002, 09:46 PM

Borchardts are rare and desirable items for a Luger collector. After looking at the picture and doing a little color and contrast correction, I have to believe that it is refinished, and not to a quality that would be considered a restoration. Some of the sharp contours have been rounded. The rust blued surface, particularly when compared to what should be the fire, or nitre, blued parts does not have the appropriate appearance (too dull and dark). The screw head and the surrounding metal on the mainspring housing has been marred and blued over. Having said that, you just can't walk down to the corner store and pick up a Borchardt, so the seller may very well come close to the $8000 asking price

Roadkill · 05-07-2002, 09:52 PM

Send us a picture of yours, Ron.

RK

05-07-2002, 10:00 PM

Ron has a Borchardt! Congratulations Ron!!! Just thinking about owning one makes me feel weak in the knees!

Brandon

Ron Wood · 05-07-2002, 10:32 PM

Just a quick snapshot, need to do a better one sometime with more controlled lighting. It isn't mint, but it is original..and it's mine! It is cased, with sholderstock, stock cheekpiece, holster and extra magazine. It is a Loewe.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Borchardt.jpg

05-07-2002, 10:53 PM

Roadkill · 05-07-2002, 11:02 PM

Outstanding firearm. Have you shot it? As Unspellable is researching, the origonal .30 luger had to be much more powerful than today's round. Is it closer to a 98 Mauser in feel than to a luger? Its really something to be proud of. Thanks for showing it.

RK

05-07-2002, 11:12 PM

Ron,

Your Bork-Hart is a beautiful pistol. I have only handled one of them in my lifetime. I will never own one! Your picture of it is a very high quality on my monitor. Thanks for taking the time to put the picture on for us!!!

Ron Wood · 05-07-2002, 11:27 PM

Although a well made weapon, it is 109 years old and deserves retirement. It has a complex, laminated serpentine mainspring that is too great a risk to break. I doubt that I could find an original, and I wouldn't want to lay out the bucks to have a new one fabricated (and it still wouldn't be original). The cartridge is is not the same as .30 Luger. It is dimensionally the same as the C96 Mauser, but not nearly as powerful. Original Borchardt rounds are themselves very collectable. Attempting to shoot the Mauser round in a Borchardt would be a disaster, almost certainly damaging if not destroying the gun.

05-07-2002, 11:49 PM

Dwight Gruber · 05-08-2002, 04:03 AM

Dude, you rule!! Seriously, this is one of the greatest personal-gun posts I've seen here. So simple, yet so elegant to own one.

--Dwight

05-08-2002, 09:58 AM

Luger of the month? If so yours has my vote! How about it Dok?

Brandon

05-08-2002, 10:07 PM

05-07-2002, 09:14 PM	#1
Brandon Metcalf Guest Posts: n/a	A Little Bit Off Topic But...... A nice looking Borchartd, Someone here might be able to afford it, I hope so! (Cause I sure can't )! Take A Look! Borchartd

05-07-2002, 09:46 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,177 Times in 1,702 Posts	Re: A Little Bit Off Topic But...... Borchardts are rare and desirable items for a Luger collector. After looking at the picture and doing a little color and contrast correction, I have to believe that it is refinished, and not to a quality that would be considered a restoration. Some of the sharp contours have been rounded. The rust blued surface, particularly when compared to what should be the fire, or nitre, blued parts does not have the appropriate appearance (too dull and dark). The screw head and the surrounding metal on the mainspring housing has been marred and blued over. Having said that, you just can't walk down to the corner store and pick up a Borchardt, so the seller may very well come close to the $8000 asking price

05-07-2002, 09:52 PM	#3
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Re: A Little Bit Off Topic But...... Send us a picture of yours, Ron. RK

05-07-2002, 10:00 PM	#4
Brandon Metcalf Guest Posts: n/a	Yeeeeee Haaaaa!!! Ron has a Borchardt! Congratulations Ron!!! Just thinking about owning one makes me feel weak in the knees! Brandon

05-07-2002, 10:32 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,177 Times in 1,702 Posts	OK...Here it is Just a quick snapshot, need to do a better one sometime with more controlled lighting. It isn't mint, but it is original..and it's mine! It is cased, with sholderstock, stock cheekpiece, holster and extra magazine. It is a Loewe. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Borchardt.jpg

05-07-2002, 10:53 PM	#6
Brandon Metcalf Guest Posts: n/a	Beeeeeeautiful! (EOM)

05-07-2002, 11:02 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Re: OK...Here it is Outstanding firearm. Have you shot it? As Unspellable is researching, the origonal .30 luger had to be much more powerful than today's round. Is it closer to a 98 Mauser in feel than to a luger? Its really something to be proud of. Thanks for showing it. RK

05-07-2002, 11:12 PM	#8
Addicted Guest Posts: n/a	Something To Behold Ron, Your Bork-Hart is a beautiful pistol. I have only handled one of them in my lifetime. I will never own one! Your picture of it is a very high quality on my monitor. Thanks for taking the time to put the picture on for us!!!

05-07-2002, 11:27 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,177 Times in 1,702 Posts	Not to be shot Although a well made weapon, it is 109 years old and deserves retirement. It has a complex, laminated serpentine mainspring that is too great a risk to break. I doubt that I could find an original, and I wouldn't want to lay out the bucks to have a new one fabricated (and it still wouldn't be original). The cartridge is is not the same as .30 Luger. It is dimensionally the same as the C96 Mauser, but not nearly as powerful. Original Borchardt rounds are themselves very collectable. Attempting to shoot the Mauser round in a Borchardt would be a disaster, almost certainly damaging if not destroying the gun.

05-07-2002, 11:49 PM	#10
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Very nice Ron! Thanx for the look (EOM)

05-08-2002, 04:03 AM	#11
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	Re: OK...Here it is Dude, you rule!! Seriously, this is one of the greatest personal-gun posts I've seen here. So simple, yet so elegant to own one. --Dwight

05-08-2002, 09:58 AM	#12
Brandon Metcalf Guest Posts: n/a	Could a Borchardt be...... Luger of the month? If so yours has my vote! How about it Dok? Brandon

05-08-2002, 10:07 PM	#13
wes Guest Posts: n/a	Fantastic Piece of Art ! (EOM)