1911

lugersrkewl · 07-09-2012, 08:11 PM

Hi all,

I would like to know what you guys who are into 1911's (padre) think about current production 45's.
I am torn between a kimber custom II , a springfield range officer , and a remington A1 and I cant afford all three!
Are there others out there that arent on my radar?
hi cap would be cool I think

thanks

sheepherder · 07-09-2012, 08:31 PM

I don't claim to be knowledgeable about 45's...but why are you not considering a Colt???

alvin · 07-09-2012, 08:34 PM

Those are for shooting fun. No need to buy all of them at the same time. Buy one, play it and it could be sold later. Then buy the next one, and so on.... some local ranges have modern .45 for rental, that's even better, you can try and jump directly to the one that fits you, at minimal cost.

padredan · 07-09-2012, 10:05 PM

The three you mentioned are all good choices , i myself think the kimbers are over priced . The springfields are a good value as well as the remington's. I think it just comes down to personel choice, i have been carring and using 1911's for over forty years , it is a proven platform , 100 years of proven service and reliabilty, you have chosen well , this is my springfield hi cap .45 , i trust it.

Patronen · 07-10-2012, 10:07 AM

http://ithacagun.com/1911.html

I'm not really a 1911 guy, but I like the looks of this one.

SteveM · 07-10-2012, 10:34 AM

I bought a used Springfield MicroCompact(has all the bells and whistles) a few years ago and really like it. I've not had any issues with it and it carries well.

Steve

padredan · 07-10-2012, 10:37 AM

I have fired one of the new Ithaca 1911 a1"s they are quality

ripcord810 · 07-10-2012, 12:13 PM

I have the Remington 1911 and really like this gun. Have had several different models but this is my favorite.

Shadowsix · 07-10-2012, 12:41 PM

I have the Springfield Armory GI 45 (in my avatar pic) and have enjoyed it for many years.

Ron Wood · 07-10-2012, 02:02 PM

I waited over a year for my local dealer to obtain a 1911-2011 Commemorative for me. But it was worth the wait...it is a beauty.

Arizona Slim · 07-10-2012, 04:15 PM

Ron, that Colt Commemorative is indeed a beauty, sure would like to add one to my collection. Congratulations on your purchase.

Lon

rhuff · 07-10-2012, 06:06 PM

I have been a 1911 guy for many years. Over the years I have accumulated Colts, Kimbers, and Springfield Armory guns. More Colts than the others, but all of what I own run 100%, and they go to the range(all but one) on a regular basis. SA have an amazing customer service, and I am told that Colt has improved theirs a lot. I have never need to try Kimber CS, so I can not comment.

alvin · 07-10-2012, 06:15 PM

Once I had a Colt 1991A1 acquired NIB, made of stainless steel but not shiny, the finish was satin grey. I heard standard 1911 holding 7 rounds, but I could put 8 rounds into that gun's magazine. It's super accurate and reliable. Regarding reliability, I did not have strong feeling because Glock, SIG, S&W, Walther, Browning etc that I had were equally reliable in range environment. But it's definitely more accurate than 9m/m.

padredan · 07-10-2012, 09:13 PM

Of all the firearms i own and alot are 1911 or 1911 a1's this Remngton Rand issued in 1944 holds the providece like no other. This pistol was built from the original parts "except the frame" from my issue sidearm, a few years ago after many years of searching i found a frame on a mismatched rand/colt and the serial numbers were only two off of my original pistol. so what you see is it nearly restored with only the frame not being original to the rest of the gun. This gun to me holds more personel meaning to me than perhaps any i own. it slept with me, rode in helicopters on apc's and in places i really do not want to remember. It never failed once to defend me or those around me , and i have no doubt that it still could, One of the senior armours who trained me , showed me the first luger i ever saw and i remember it well , and how well it balenced. I asked him where he got it and he said in holand, that the german was still trying to get it out of the holster when he met "ole slab sides" This is a luger forum and i respect that and i own three, but nothing will ever hold the place that this Rand does and most of my 1911's , much respect Padre

lugersrkewl · 07-10-2012, 10:21 PM

beautiful , thats a darn near priceless pistol right there.

mlmahon · 07-11-2012, 12:42 AM

My son, John, just picked up his Kimber Custom II 1911's and they are gorgeous. I'll post some better pics when he comes back home in a couple of weeks. I'm already drooling.

-ML

Stevie · 07-11-2012, 09:54 AM

I own a M1927 Sistema Colt(1961 vintage I think)..a 1990's Springfield Armory 'Milspec' 1911A1...and a new last year Remington 1911R1...all are good pistols.

I've owned other 1911 brandname guns in the past that were not worth taking home! These were not Colts..but other brandname guns.

If you buy a Remington 1911..look at several in person if possible..quality seems to vary on these. My Remington is a great pistol..however I've seen some pics online of new Remingtons that were not too well made!

padredan · 07-11-2012, 05:16 PM

I agree ,there are some 1911's out there are really not good, just put together clones. Take a good look at the fit. Springfield armory started to use alot of Imbel brazian frames , heat treating was not good on some , now i understand the entire pistol is being made by imbel on some models. Watch out for those. All 1911's NEED TO BE TUNED AND FITTED , but you must have a good frame and parts to start with. Just because it is a 1911 and .45 acp caliber does not make it a great pistol. the one in the picture is a Colt national match slide and barrel, internal parts are wilson and the frame is essex and hours of tuning and work before i was satisfied enoughe to put my name behind it. It shot bianchi cup three times and then was returned to me rebuild and then given to me . This pistol has seen thousands of rounds over the years . I doubt i could count the number of rounds that has been shot with it, and it is still as good as ever, not many platforms can say that. To have a quality 1911 you must first have quality parts and then they have to be fitted and tuned ,either you pay for it up front or you find a good 1911 smith or armor and pay for it later , Padre

sheepherder · 07-11-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie

I've owned other 1911 brandname guns in the past that were not worth taking home! These were not Colts..but other brandname guns.

Agreed. In the 80's, I wanted a stainless 45. I found a stainless AMT 45 at a gun show, used, with mag; $265 OTD. I fired about 20 rounds through it; all 20 cases were bulged...The chamber was not only oversize, but off center...I traded it in later for something, and later bought a new stainless Colt Gold Cup...That cost $600+ and was really nice...Except for the plastic mainspring housing!!! That went in the trash...

saab-bob · 07-11-2012, 07:55 PM

Postino
Its a small world. The first gun that I bought by myself was a Arcadia Machine & Tool AKA AMT Hardballer .45. Bought it slightly used from a policeman. One of the first ones made. Had a few feeding problems,so did some ramp work under my dads watchful eye. Put a buffer in it and found some correct stainless steel grease for it. After all these years it still shoots great. The only thing that has ever failed is the original extractor. Bought a new Wilson Combat extractor,did some fitting,all fixed. I still love shooting it.
Bob

07-09-2012, 08:11 PM	#1
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	1911 Hi all, I would like to know what you guys who are into 1911's (padre) think about current production 45's. I am torn between a kimber custom II , a springfield range officer , and a remington A1 and I cant afford all three! Are there others out there that arent on my radar? hi cap would be cool I think thanks

07-09-2012, 08:31 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	I don't claim to be knowledgeable about 45's...but why are you not considering a Colt??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-09-2012, 10:05 PM	#4
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	The three you mentioned are all good choices , i myself think the kimbers are over priced . The springfields are a good value as well as the remington's. I think it just comes down to personel choice, i have been carring and using 1911's for over forty years , it is a proven platform , 100 years of proven service and reliabilty, you have chosen well , this is my springfield hi cap .45 , i trust it. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

07-10-2012, 10:07 AM	#5
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	http://ithacagun.com/1911.html I'm not really a 1911 guy, but I like the looks of this one. __________________ Dave

07-10-2012, 10:37 AM	#7
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	I have fired one of the new Ithaca 1911 a1"s they are quality __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

07-09-2012, 08:34 PM	#3
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Those are for shooting fun. No need to buy all of them at the same time. Buy one, play it and it could be sold later. Then buy the next one, and so on.... some local ranges have modern .45 for rental, that's even better, you can try and jump directly to the one that fits you, at minimal cost.

07-10-2012, 10:34 AM	#6
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	I bought a used Springfield MicroCompact(has all the bells and whistles) a few years ago and really like it. I've not had any issues with it and it carries well. Steve

07-10-2012, 12:13 PM	#8
ripcord810 User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 146 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	I have the Remington 1911 and really like this gun. Have had several different models but this is my favorite.

07-10-2012, 12:41 PM	#9
Shadowsix User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 106 Thanks: 56 Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts	I have the Springfield Armory GI 45 (in my avatar pic) and have enjoyed it for many years.

07-10-2012, 02:02 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	I waited over a year for my local dealer to obtain a 1911-2011 Commemorative for me. But it was worth the wait...it is a beauty. Attached Thumbnails __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-10-2012, 04:15 PM	#11
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Ron, that Colt Commemorative is indeed a beauty, sure would like to add one to my collection. Congratulations on your purchase. Lon

07-10-2012, 06:06 PM	#12
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,274 Thanks: 2,695 Thanked 961 Times in 707 Posts	I have been a 1911 guy for many years. Over the years I have accumulated Colts, Kimbers, and Springfield Armory guns. More Colts than the others, but all of what I own run 100%, and they go to the range(all but one) on a regular basis. SA have an amazing customer service, and I am told that Colt has improved theirs a lot. I have never need to try Kimber CS, so I can not comment.

07-10-2012, 06:15 PM	#13
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Once I had a Colt 1991A1 acquired NIB, made of stainless steel but not shiny, the finish was satin grey. I heard standard 1911 holding 7 rounds, but I could put 8 rounds into that gun's magazine. It's super accurate and reliable. Regarding reliability, I did not have strong feeling because Glock, SIG, S&W, Walther, Browning etc that I had were equally reliable in range environment. But it's definitely more accurate than 9m/m.

07-10-2012, 09:13 PM	#14
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	Of all the firearms i own and alot are 1911 or 1911 a1's this Remngton Rand issued in 1944 holds the providece like no other. This pistol was built from the original parts "except the frame" from my issue sidearm, a few years ago after many years of searching i found a frame on a mismatched rand/colt and the serial numbers were only two off of my original pistol. so what you see is it nearly restored with only the frame not being original to the rest of the gun. This gun to me holds more personel meaning to me than perhaps any i own. it slept with me, rode in helicopters on apc's and in places i really do not want to remember. It never failed once to defend me or those around me , and i have no doubt that it still could, One of the senior armours who trained me , showed me the first luger i ever saw and i remember it well , and how well it balenced. I asked him where he got it and he said in holand, that the german was still trying to get it out of the holster when he met "ole slab sides" This is a luger forum and i respect that and i own three, but nothing will ever hold the place that this Rand does and most of my 1911's , much respect Padre Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

07-10-2012, 10:21 PM	#15
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	beautiful , thats a darn near priceless pistol right there.

07-11-2012, 12:42 AM	#16
mlmahon User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Port Neches, TX Posts: 80 Thanks: 51 Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts	Commerative 1911's My son, John, just picked up his Kimber Custom II 1911's and they are gorgeous. I'll post some better pics when he comes back home in a couple of weeks. I'm already drooling. -ML Attached Thumbnails __________________ Knowledge is Power. Trust but Verify.

07-11-2012, 09:54 AM	#17
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I own a M1927 Sistema Colt(1961 vintage I think)..a 1990's Springfield Armory 'Milspec' 1911A1...and a new last year Remington 1911R1...all are good pistols. I've owned other 1911 brandname guns in the past that were not worth taking home! These were not Colts..but other brandname guns. If you buy a Remington 1911..look at several in person if possible..quality seems to vary on these. My Remington is a great pistol..however I've seen some pics online of new Remingtons that were not too well made!

07-11-2012, 05:16 PM	#18
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	I agree ,there are some 1911's out there are really not good, just put together clones. Take a good look at the fit. Springfield armory started to use alot of Imbel brazian frames , heat treating was not good on some , now i understand the entire pistol is being made by imbel on some models. Watch out for those. All 1911's NEED TO BE TUNED AND FITTED , but you must have a good frame and parts to start with. Just because it is a 1911 and .45 acp caliber does not make it a great pistol. the one in the picture is a Colt national match slide and barrel, internal parts are wilson and the frame is essex and hours of tuning and work before i was satisfied enoughe to put my name behind it. It shot bianchi cup three times and then was returned to me rebuild and then given to me . This pistol has seen thousands of rounds over the years . I doubt i could count the number of rounds that has been shot with it, and it is still as good as ever, not many platforms can say that. To have a quality 1911 you must first have quality parts and then they have to be fitted and tuned ,either you pay for it up front or you find a good 1911 smith or armor and pay for it later , Padre Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

07-11-2012, 07:55 PM	#20
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Postino Its a small world. The first gun that I bought by myself was a Arcadia Machine & Tool AKA AMT Hardballer .45. Bought it slightly used from a policeman. One of the first ones made. Had a few feeding problems,so did some ramp work under my dads watchful eye. Put a buffer in it and found some correct stainless steel grease for it. After all these years it still shoots great. The only thing that has ever failed is the original extractor. Bought a new Wilson Combat extractor,did some fitting,all fixed. I still love shooting it. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"