Double Unit Marks

Dick Herman · 03-11-2019, 05:33 PM

My 1911 Erfurt Model 1908 has two sets of unit marks. One set of marks is “177.R.” The other set is Xed out “12.T.S.1.169.”
I will appreciate help interpreting these unit marks.

George Anderson · 03-11-2019, 06:42 PM

177th Regiment and 12th Train Sanitaets Battalion, 1st company, weapon 169. The latter is an ambulance unit.

Dick Herman · 03-11-2019, 08:25 PM

Thank you George. Do you think the Lugers were carried by train personnel and not medical staff?

Norme · 03-11-2019, 09:02 PM

Imperial German medical staff were armed, they smoked too.

Dwight Gruber · 03-12-2019, 01:27 AM

"Train" as in logistical transport formation, not RR.

--Dwight

LU1900 · 03-13-2019, 09:52 PM

I have his brother
12.T.S.1.32 for erfurt 1911 sn 1799
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Could you tell the sn from yours

DonVoigt · 03-13-2019, 10:43 PM

I have a 1912 Erfurt with "12.T.S.3.208." canceled, then added "106.S.7.22" also canceled, and finally "96.R.10.6"- which is not canceled.

It also arrived here in a converted Reichsrevolver holster.

A luger that really "got around".

Dick Herman · 03-14-2019, 12:49 AM

The serial number of my 1911 Erfurt Model 1908 with the unit marks “177.R” and the Xed out “12.T.S.1.169” is 2986.

03-11-2019, 05:33 PM	#1
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 356 Times in 138 Posts	Double Unit Marks My 1911 Erfurt Model 1908 has two sets of unit marks. One set of marks is “177.R.” The other set is Xed out “12.T.S.1.169.” I will appreciate help interpreting these unit marks.

03-13-2019, 09:52 PM	#6
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 914 Thanks: 49 Thanked 475 Times in 200 Posts	I have his brother 12.T.S.1.32 for erfurt 1911 sn 1799 / Could you tell the sn from yours __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

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03-11-2019, 06:42 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	177th Regiment and 12th Train Sanitaets Battalion, 1st company, weapon 169. The latter is an ambulance unit.

03-11-2019, 08:25 PM	#3
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 356 Times in 138 Posts	Thank you George. Do you think the Lugers were carried by train personnel and not medical staff?

03-12-2019, 01:27 AM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	"Train" as in logistical transport formation, not RR. --Dwight

03-14-2019, 12:49 AM	#8
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 356 Times in 138 Posts	The serial number of my 1911 Erfurt Model 1908 with the unit marks “177.R” and the Xed out “12.T.S.1.169” is 2986.