Working mag and sear safety

[Fpp4440]

I have an interesting Luger to post. Serial #9720e, 4"' 9mm, DWM, blank chamber, military style serial number placement, intact and working magazine and sear safeties. No proof marks. 8,82 on barrel. Matching except magazine. Condition approx. 90%. No marking on straps. It appears to be WW1 type and converted post war.

[alanint]

Welcome aboard!!

Photos would be great!

[sheepherder]

I am in the minority here, but I believe that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece.

I also would like to see pictures, especially of the intact safeties.

What grips does it have???

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by postino

I am in the minority here, but I believe that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece.

I also would like to see pictures, especially of the intact safeties.

What grips does it have???

Guess I'll have to dig out my unmarked Police with both safeties intact and take pictures!

[mystical_tutor]

Please do Hugh. I'd love to see them too. I have always wished I had a working sear safety, or at least could really see one.

Gary

[Dwight Gruber]

A detailed photo examination of a functioning magazine safety on pages 85-87, and a profile of a pistol with intact safeties on pages 70-71, are found in the book Police Lugers by myself and Ed Tinker. Police Lugers is still available and can be ordered from Ed through this forum.

--Dwight

[mystical_tutor]

Thanks Dwight. I did just that and enjoy the book a lot. Have not finished it yet but did read the part of the mag safety, very nicely done.

I would really like to see one 'in the flesh' and actually see it work. The one I have has been broken, as so many have, where the part should protrude into the mag well.

Thanks for your work on that book, it is a valuable part of Luger history now, I think.

Gary

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by mystical_tutor

I would really like to see one 'in the flesh' and actually see it work. The one I have has been broken, as so many have, where the part should protrude into the mag well.Gary

Gary,
Gerard Henrotin has an e-book, first in a series of five, called "Luger Mechanical Features". This link http://www.hlebooks.com/ is on our forum's main page, and the animated, firing Luger pistol is kind of a preview of the contents of the book. There's a section which explains the mechanical systems of the mag and sear safety, all about exactly how they work. I recommend spending the $7.95 for a copy on your computer, you'll be glad you did!

D.

[Sergio Natali]

Welcome to this forum of LUGER enthusiasts, would be interesting to see some photos though.

I agree completely that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece.

[Fpp4440]

I will have pictures soon.

[Lyn Islaub]

I've got a couple of them too and can post pictures next week when I'm back from vacation.

[mystical_tutor]

Dave I definately owe you one. That e-book is awesome. Everything I always wanted to know for $8.00. Do you have any recomendations or comments on the other books in the series? The titles sure look interesting.

Gary

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by mystical_tutor

Dave I definately owe you one. That e-book is awesome. Everything I always wanted to know for $8.00. Do you have any recomendations or comments on the other books in the series? The titles sure look interesting.

Gary

I was fairly intensively into the first one because M. Henrotin took me up on my offer to proof read and edit it for sentence structure and usage. Gerard explained that since it was the first, its English was not up to the level of subsequent Luger books. I had all five, and had skimmed the other four before a computer crash took them. I got the passwords re-instated, but then another crash and new hard drive. I need to re-up again, but I remember the rest seemed just as good and informative as the one I worked on.

[mystical_tutor]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I was fairly intensively into the first one because M. Henrotin took me up on my offer to proof read and edit it for sentence structure and usage. Gerard explained that since it was the first, its English was not up to the level of subsequent Luger books. I had all five, and had skimmed the other four before a computer crash took them. I got the passwords re-instated, but then another crash and new hard drive. I need to re-up again, but I remember the rest seemed just as good and informative as the one I worked on.

If I'm reading right the copyright date is 2002 so i would expect them to be a little behind the times but not much. For that price I think I'll pick them up.

(PS, I bought a Seagate Freeagent .5 Tb external drive and just love it to pieces. Works with all OSs, fits in anything I can carry a puter in and runs like a champ. I back up on a laptop but mainly run on the remote.)

Gary

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by mystical_tutor

I bought a Seagate Freeagent .5 Tb external drive

Gary

I've been using a Seagate external drive for backup since the last time. The e-books seem protected pretty well with their software "lock". The main downside is that it will only run on the drive and OS on which it was initially installed. When changing either of these, it seems that one needs to purchase updated passwords.

OK, a bit more than ten years out-of-date. But I think just about every collectors' book suffers the same fate to one degree or another, even the $300+ ones, as more is learned and documented. I view these as a concise overview of the topics covered and --like Wikipedia--a good place to start. I agree the prices are very reasonable.

[Hugh]

Sneak Police with working magazine safety and sear safety. I have shown pics with the magazine in and with it removed to illustrate how the magazine safety works.

HOW THE MAGAZINE SAFETY WORKS:
When the magazine is in the pistol, it pushes out the small tab in the frame and clears the tab behind the trigger so that the trigger can be pulled. With the magazine removed the safety moves in to position the tab behind the trigger so that the trigger cannot be pulled.

Just noticed that the trigger sn is off by 3. If anyone has a strawed trigger numbered 96 to sell or trade for this one please let me know!

[sheepherder]

Thank you for the pics! I can see it now!

So the magazine safety doesn't block the sear at all, just the trigger???

Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety???

[Hugh]

So the magazine safety doesn't block the sear at all, just the trigger???
CORRECT!

Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety?
Here you are:

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety?

Here you are:

Thank You!

Originally Posted by Hugh

Guess I'll have to dig out my unmarked Police with both safeties intact and take pictures!

...But your Police is marked... L.L1.67.

What does that stand for???

(My apologies to the OP...Hopefully, these off-thread posts are informative as well as entertaining)

[Hugh]

Pics of Frank's (fpp4440) mag safety Luger: