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Unread 01-28-2002, 06:25 PM   #1
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Default ebay item. holster, different, unusual!

Hey guys, it may be a case of putting the cart in front of the horse, (I've been known to do that), but the ebay item # 1068494845 is that of a very unusual Luger holster, all stamped metal. Does anyone have any info on this unit. Please contact me off forum, many thanx....



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Unread 01-28-2002, 07:01 PM   #2
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Speaking of unusual holsters--how many of you have ever seen a Walther Model 6 hardshell? I saw one this weekend that still had the Walther mag fittings in the lid. The owner was the grandson of the GI who captured it.


At the Colo Springs gun show this weekend I was asked by someone to estimate the value of his luger. It was a 1917 Erfurt with a replaced sear bar but otherwise decent used condition. His grandfather captured it near Remagen in WW2 and brought it back. The local "luger expert" told him he should ensure it for around $550 including the very early ca1908 luger holster it was in. This was the last straw for me with the local "luger expert" as I told the owner that the holster was not a luger holster but the incredibly rare Walther Model 6 holster. Everyone in Colorado is directed to the expert with their lugers and MOST of the advice and information he gives out is wrong. For example:


Your luger holster is an early one made in 1908 (Walther Model 6 holster). The expert was absolutely certain and ignored correct information from others.


WD40 will restore your luger holster. (and other goo's that have no business being put on collectible leather goods but might be appropriate for work gloves or rain boots)


Shower with a dyed luger holster will restore its original brown color--then saddle soap it.


You should reblue that luger because it has a spot of finish wear on it. It is so nice you should blue it up to mint.


Beware the ridiculous advice some "experts" have no hesitation sharing at gun shows. If you ask what evidence or source supports their advice, it is always "heard it from gun show guy", "I do it and it works for me (whatever that means)", the Smithsonian does it (or other bogus claim they were fed or are making up).


Don't get me started about the guy who used super-hard steel to polish his 1910 Train luger and took the finish off the grip strap. He said the old luger experts taught him that trick. Took a beautiful 95% luger down to an ugly gun in about fifteen minutes.


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Default Benke-Thieman stock, see

`pages 84 and 85 Astra automatic pistols by Antaris.

Made to fit the Luger or Astra model 400.Item shown on

e-bay also could be a varient made by another job shop.



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Default Re: ebay item. holster, different, unusual!

We all have scenes that seem to come from the "Rocky Horror Picture Show." I was at a tourist spot in the midwest one time that featured a "gunsmith." He converted Itallian import muzzleloaders into "custom guns." In reply to the question from a tourist "are they safe??" he said, "Sure. We once filled the barrel of one of these these all the way to the end with black powder, pushed in lead ball, and set 'er off. Didn't hurt her a bit." I referred it to mgt. there.



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Default Re: Benke-Thieman stock, see auction cancelled

Ebay has cancelled the auction. They feel the item in in appropriate as per their policies. As a repeat, if anyone has downloaded the pictures, would you please forward them to me as a future reference, many thanx.....



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Default Not The Benke-Thieman stock (see Photo)

Absolutely a very unusual instrument...


If anyone has any other photos of this type of stock I would love to add them to my photo collection...


I think we need to research where and what this stock that was on eBay really is. I have never seen one in any book or at any show.


JP, if you have this unusual eBay stock pictured in the book about Astra pistols, how about scanning it and posting it here on the forum.


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