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Unread 01-27-2002, 11:13 AM   #1
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Default Borchardt/Luger History

I have to do a class project (yes, a firearms class) on the history, impact on society and impact of war of the Luger pistol and its predecessor, the Borchardt.


Any help as to information on the above or some links, would be appreciated. Thanks.



 
Unread 01-27-2002, 12:38 PM   #2
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Look in our "History of the Luger" link on the left menu sidebar.


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Unread 01-27-2002, 01:00 PM   #3
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"Impact on society and impact of war of the Luger pistol and its predecessor, the Borchardt?" Minimal, as a recent trip to parallel universe #3607 confirms. There Borchardt, as a young man, was killed in a duel with a jealous husband. There was never a Borchardt pistol for George Luger to redesign. Instead Luger improved the Mauser Broomhandle by adding a removable magazine in 10 and 20 round sizes. The Broomhandle was adopted in 9mm Mauser Export caliber by the German Army as the P07. During WWI a version of the Broomhandle was modified for select fire and the MP18 was never developed. Broomhandles were made by Mauser, DWM, and Erfurt. Production was switched to the Walther P38 (9mm Mauser) in 1941.


The 9mm Mauser cartridge became the world's most popular pistol cartridge after having been used by Germany in the Broomhandle and Austria-Hungary in the Steyer M1912 pistol which originally used the 9mm Steyer cartridge. George Luger's fame came from the beer can opener he invented. Even today, people remember the phrase, "Pass the Luger."


The effect on war of the missing Luger pistol was not noticeable. Effects on society were limited to movie bad guys carrying Broomhandles and those who would have been Luger collectors collecting Broomhandles. There were a few Luger collectors who collected different varities of European and American beer can openers.



 
Unread 01-27-2002, 03:56 PM   #4
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Dear Bill - aren't you overlooking the funny tea-tray shaped sledge on which the terminally daft propel themselves down precipices without being able to see where they're going? Our friend George seems to have invented that, too, after all, they are called 'lugers'. By the way, I have a spare seventeenth variant bottle-opener with the dished toggles, but without the cork-retainin capability of the sixthteenth variant. Interested in a swap?


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Unread 01-27-2002, 07:03 PM   #5
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Yes, as a matter of fact, George invented that too. It had a clip on the side to hold the "Luger," the combination can/bottle opener. Some started calling the large serving tray a "Luger" also. After excessive use of the Luger tool, some started the sport of sliding down slopes on the Luger tray. The French corrupted the name of the tray to "Luge."


Note that the tray, but not the tool, has appeared in our universe. This kind of crossover occurs sometimes when the moon is full and the veil is thin.



 
Unread 01-27-2002, 07:52 PM   #6
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Rich,


If you go to the Luger Forum's "Links & Resources" there are good luger books available at Amazon.com.


If your local library is not too "politically correct" you might find some of these luger books there without the need to spend hundreds of $$'s.





 
Unread 01-27-2002, 10:50 PM   #7
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I guess I should have been more specific. I'm doing a presentation tomorrow night which should last 15 minutes. I looked at the History of the Luger on the side but need more.


Anything else?



 
Unread 01-28-2002, 12:35 AM   #8
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Rich - Go to www.google.com

search for borchardt luger

The first page of results alone will give you more info than you can use.



 
Unread 01-30-2002, 08:56 PM   #9
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there is a nice history of the Borchardt on the new NAPCA site at http://www.napca.net/ click on the monthly feature : what is it?



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