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I guess the toggle action is essentially an American design , first proving successful in the Henry Rifle and going on to be even more successful in the 1866 and 1873 Winchester.
Next came another American, Maxim who used it in his very successful Machinegun. Considering the millions of rounds fired out of maxim and Vickers machineguns using a toggle action , it can hardly be described as mechanically finicky or unsound. Didn't Hugo Borchardt spend time in America? perhaps thats where he got the idea !?
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Didn't Hugo Borchardt spend time in America? perhaps thats where he got the idea !?[/QUOTE] Of course....He worked for the Winchester Repeating Arms Co...and seems that he developed a Revolver , which purpose was to force Colt to cease production of rifles... |
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Those holsters look like this, from a Members web site.
http://www.lugerlp08.com/Holster_files/image010.jpg The show up on ebay and gun shows from time to time. |
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Thank you Ben! I see the Magazine Holder on top but is there a Loading tool pouch inside?
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Is there anyone who makes a Hardshell holster for the 6" guns??
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Yes, and how. Try this outfit.
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Didn't Hugo Borchardt spend time in America? perhaps thats where he got the idea !?[/QUOTE]
Of course....He worked for the Winchester Repeating Arms Co...and seems that he developed a Revolver , which purpose was to force Colt to cease production of rifles...[/QUOTE] I was surprised by your comment as I have never heard of a Borchardt revolver!? But your right, and here is as good an explanation as any on the topic. http://www.airlandseaweapons.com/blo...oading-pistol/ But it seems they were never put into production ! shame I guess!
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HKman, The holster that Interarms sold did not have a tool pouch at all. It did have a provision to place a cleaning rod in a round formed sleeve along the side/edge of the holster. A friend of mine here in Las Vegas has a 4" model. Its nicely made but the leather is thick and still stiff after many years. Not pliable.
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Mike you make Holsters?
Ben the Interarms version isn't really what I'd call a true "Luger Holster". However, the Hardshell Holsters aren't really pliable either. I like the traditional Holster with the Magazine pouch and loading tool pouch under the flap. Most of these holsters don't have a cleaning rod pouch. |
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I happen to like the Swiss Luger's grip better than the German gun. I love my Interarms Swiss Pattern 6" barreled Mauser Luger!
However, why is it so hard to find a hardshell holster for the 6" gun?
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I know this is an old thread , BUT, do all Swiss Lugers that were made for the Swiss Army adopted in 06 to whenever in 1945 when they replaced it, DID they all look like this, no knurling in the toggles, no frame fins, and the different looking receiver nose? There is one on U-Tube that he insists it be called a Parabellum.
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Only the 06/29 did, and some early post-war Mauser pistols which were based on it.
Insisting on calling the pistol a 'Parabellum' has some merit. It's called the 'Parabellum Pistol' officially after all. If one drives a Chevy, one may just as well call it a Chevy
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SO how many were made. Are they rare, there is one on U-Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjqB...0EFD5EE8922217 something like this would be how common? ANd oh yes, HE DOES not want you to call his 06/29 a Luger!!! SO don't dare say in his comments, "I like your Luger." It sure is a beauty! |
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Well, his title of the video states Parabellum/Luger disassembly, but don't tell him I said so.
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Alexander,
I would very much like to acquire your Swiss pistol trials 1892-1900 booklet (I can read a little bit of German ). Where can I find it to purchase?Ron
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Ron (and all other interested people...
)you can order the book here: http://www.shop.rwm-depesche.de/de/ - or via mail here: lesestoff@rwm-depesche.de Alexander |
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I have posted some photos on Google+ and uploaded them in an album on this forum.
http://forum.lugerforum.com/album.php?albumid=630 https://goo.gl/photos/KZziYPfJ4zrRDyMG8 Note the inertial dents caused by bullets shifting in the magazine under recoil.
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Michael - I will send you the article next weekend
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Here is the Swiss test firing machine. I wonder if it still exists.
The drawings survived, so if anyone feels like building one?
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Have you found this in the Mauser Archives? I'm afraid the machine has not survived - as I know it's not in the RUAG collection, may be in the former ammunition factory collection - I will check this. Alexander Last edited by Stucki; 01-10-2017 at 10:20 AM. |
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