Days Gone By

Proofed · 11-08-2019, 02:51 AM

Here are some ads from newspapers that you may find interesting
Top Wichita 5-18-1901
Middle Phoenix 12-14-1901
Bottom Pittsburgh 7-5-23
In some early ads they are still referred to as revolvers

Proofed · 11-08-2019, 03:04 AM

Chicago 1-29-1922 6 parts of an article about a luger aquisition

Dwight Gruber · 11-08-2019, 06:25 AM

Thanks very much! What is the source for these?

--Dwight

DonVoigt · 11-08-2019, 09:01 AM

Cool! Thanks for posting.

Chicago has had "gun" problems for years; wonder if that reporter got arrested for his purchase after writing about it?

Proofed · 11-08-2019, 03:55 PM

These are photographs of vintage ads
Tulsa 8-25-1916
Philly 2-5-1922
Philly 11-22-22

Olle · 11-10-2019, 08:29 PM

Peter von Frantzius seems to have been an interesting character, and I'm not surprised to see him mentioned in this context. He ran a respectable sporting goods business in the front of the store, and at the same time he was selling machine guns to the mob in a back room. At the time he was called "The Armorer of Gangland", and he's also the man behind the Franzite grips.

By the way: The first article appears to be about the military trials, and the reporter calls the Luger a "revolver that carries 116 shots". The education level of reporters hasn't changed a bit.

Proofed · 11-11-2019, 03:00 AM

Thanks for the info on the "Armorer of Gangland" ! that's cool !

mrerick · 11-11-2019, 08:37 AM

As the Tribune 1922 article says, "It's easy to get guns in Chicago".

Proofed · 11-14-2019, 08:40 AM

More ads and info
1,2 and 3 St Louis 6-24-1923
4 Washington D.C. 1-16-1907

Vlim · 11-14-2019, 09:30 AM

Interesting ad.

This one shows the cut down artillery holsters.

Olle · 11-14-2019, 06:55 PM

$1.95 for a Luger stock ain't bad. At that price I wouldn't even ask if it's a repro.

HerrKaiser · 11-14-2019, 09:56 PM

Some playing on the calculator and inflation adjustments led to some insight on just how good a deal that 1923 St. Louis ad was.

$1 in 1923 had the purchasing power of about $15 today ($100=$1504.95)

That Luger with stock was a $57.95* deal for $51.95, adjusted to $872.12 for $781.82 in 2019

The sale price totaled a final of $15.80, adjusted to $237.78

*There was no NFA in 1923, so they also avoided a $200 ($3009.90) tax on SBR's. Of course, the tax remains $200 even in 2019.

Eugen · 11-15-2019, 02:10 PM

"Guns of German Make Flood Market of U.S."

Now that is a headline that we are likely to never see in a newspaper again; regretfully.

Love those old ads and articles. Thanks for sharing.

Proofed · 11-15-2019, 11:54 PM

Sorry about the quality
1-and-2 Pittsburgh 2-10-1900
3 Kansas 9-9-1922

Proofed · 11-16-2019, 01:29 AM

Spokane 3-20-1947

Sharpsdressed Man · 11-16-2019, 05:58 PM

When I was 14, my dad said I could have a gun. I literally saved my lunch money, and bought a Spreework P38 for $55 in 1966. The Lugers in the shop, mostly vet bringbacks, were &75 for a 4" and $125 for an Artillery Luger. A bit more than I could afford. Dad had to sign for the gun. I think nice, non-corrosive Canadian ball ammo was $2 for 36 rounds.

11-08-2019, 02:51 AM	#1
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Days Gone By Here are some ads from newspapers that you may find interesting Top Wichita 5-18-1901 Middle Phoenix 12-14-1901 Bottom Pittsburgh 7-5-23 In some early ads they are still referred to as revolvers Attached Thumbnails

11-08-2019, 03:04 AM	#2
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Chicago Chicago 1-29-1922 6 parts of an article about a luger aquisition Attached Thumbnails

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Cool! Thanks for posting. Chicago has had "gun" problems for years; wonder if that reporter got arrested for his purchase after writing about it? __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-08-2019, 03:55 PM	#5
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	These are photographs of vintage ads Tulsa 8-25-1916 Philly 2-5-1922 Philly 11-22-22 Attached Thumbnails

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Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	Peter von Frantzius seems to have been an interesting character, and I'm not surprised to see him mentioned in this context. He ran a respectable sporting goods business in the front of the store, and at the same time he was selling machine guns to the mob in a back room. At the time he was called "The Armorer of Gangland", and he's also the man behind the Franzite grips. By the way: The first article appears to be about the military trials, and the reporter calls the Luger a "revolver that carries 116 shots". The education level of reporters hasn't changed a bit. __________________ Deer Hollow Enterprises, LLC Gun repair and restoration

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Thanks very much! What is the source for these? --Dwight

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Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Midnite Auto Thanks for the info on the "Armorer of Gangland" ! that's cool !

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11-14-2019, 08:40 AM	#9
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	More ads and info 1,2 and 3 St Louis 6-24-1923 4 Washington D.C. 1-16-1907 Attached Thumbnails

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Interesting ad. This one shows the cut down artillery holsters. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

11-14-2019, 06:55 PM	#11
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	$1.95 for a Luger stock ain't bad. At that price I wouldn't even ask if it's a repro. __________________ Deer Hollow Enterprises, LLC Gun repair and restoration

11-14-2019, 09:56 PM	#12
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 866 Thanks: 816 Thanked 880 Times in 422 Posts	Some playing on the calculator and inflation adjustments led to some insight on just how good a deal that 1923 St. Louis ad was. $1 in 1923 had the purchasing power of about $15 today ($100=$1504.95) That Luger with stock was a $57.95* deal for $51.95, adjusted to $872.12 for $781.82 in 2019 The sale price totaled a final of $15.80, adjusted to $237.78 *There was no NFA in 1923, so they also avoided a $200 ($3009.90) tax on SBR's. Of course, the tax remains $200 even in 2019. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

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Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 793 Thanks: 400 Thanked 634 Times in 336 Posts	"Guns of German Make Flood Market of U.S." Now that is a headline that we are likely to never see in a newspaper again; regretfully. Love those old ads and articles. Thanks for sharing. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

11-15-2019, 11:54 PM	#14
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Sorry about the quality 1-and-2 Pittsburgh 2-10-1900 3 Kansas 9-9-1922 Attached Thumbnails

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Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	Spokane 3-20-1947 Attached Thumbnails

11-16-2019, 05:58 PM	#16
Sharpsdressed Man User Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	When I was 14, my dad said I could have a gun. I literally saved my lunch money, and bought a Spreework P38 for $55 in 1966. The Lugers in the shop, mostly vet bringbacks, were &75 for a 4" and $125 for an Artillery Luger. A bit more than I could afford. Dad had to sign for the gun. I think nice, non-corrosive Canadian ball ammo was $2 for 36 rounds.