Odd Magazine Marking

Luke · 08-13-2002, 03:11 PM

See picture below. This early DWM magazine bottom has the standard "5717e" marking but has been stamped over with a large, upside-down, "07."

One theory is that this was an armorer's property mark.

Any other thoughts, comments?

Thanks
Luke

Hugh · 08-13-2002, 04:32 PM

<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" /> Luke, looks like a LO to me, maybe they forgot to stamp the last L for LOL ????? <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

Luke · 08-13-2002, 04:40 PM

Thanks, Hugh. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Actually, it was probably a WW-I James Bond pistol.

Garfield · 08-13-2002, 05:28 PM

Luke:

A property mark is as good and rational an explanation as any. If the mag had been renumbered to another gun, the old serial most likely would have X'ed out.

ToggleTop · 08-13-2002, 08:35 PM

Hello Luke,
It is for sure a strange marked magazine to me! Navy mag's are the only ones I have seen with the figures running in that direction. Could the 07 possibly be a year date like found on holsters?

Garfield · 08-13-2002, 09:42 PM

Toggle Top:

See Still, Imperial Lugers pg.88.

Luke;

Perhaps of some small interest, the mag bottom pictured in Still's book is numbered 5184 e.

Karl · 08-13-2002, 09:56 PM

Luke,

For what it's worth, the 5717 "e" looks like a script "b" to me, which would mean that the magazine probably came from a 1910 model, if it is an "e" then it would have to have come from a 1911 model (the only year they made e blocks with the old style magazine numbering). The "07" is obviously a reference to agent 007, greatly increasing its collector value on E-Bay. KFS

Luke · 08-14-2002, 12:53 PM

Garfield & ToggleTop -
Thanks for your comments.

Hugh & Karl -
Thanks for the smiles.

Luke

Johnny Peppers · 08-14-2002, 02:36 PM

The letter suffix appears to be the third variation of the letter e as shown in Costanzo.

08-13-2002, 03:11 PM	#1
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Odd Magazine Marking See picture below. This early DWM magazine bottom has the standard "5717e" marking but has been stamped over with a large, upside-down, "07." One theory is that this was an armorer's property mark. Any other thoughts, comments? Thanks Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

08-13-2002, 04:32 PM	#2
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" /> Luke, looks like a LO to me, maybe they forgot to stamp the last L for LOL ????? <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-13-2002, 04:40 PM	#3
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks, Hugh. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Actually, it was probably a WW-I James Bond pistol. __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

08-13-2002, 08:35 PM	#5
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Luke, It is for sure a strange marked magazine to me! Navy mag's are the only ones I have seen with the figures running in that direction. Could the 07 possibly be a year date like found on holsters? __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-14-2002, 12:53 PM	#8
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Garfield & ToggleTop - Thanks for your comments. Hugh & Karl - Thanks for the smiles. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

08-13-2002, 05:28 PM	#4
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luke: A property mark is as good and rational an explanation as any. If the mag had been renumbered to another gun, the old serial most likely would have X'ed out.

08-13-2002, 09:42 PM	#6
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Toggle Top: See Still, Imperial Lugers pg.88. Luke; Perhaps of some small interest, the mag bottom pictured in Still's book is numbered 5184 e.

08-13-2002, 09:56 PM	#7
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	Luke, For what it's worth, the 5717 "e" looks like a script "b" to me, which would mean that the magazine probably came from a 1910 model, if it is an "e" then it would have to have come from a 1911 model (the only year they made e blocks with the old style magazine numbering). The "07" is obviously a reference to agent 007, greatly increasing its collector value on E-Bay. KFS

08-14-2002, 02:36 PM	#9
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The letter suffix appears to be the third variation of the letter e as shown in Costanzo.