Finnish Holster

Edward Tinker · 02-13-2016, 07:18 PM

I am sure this is Finnish - but lets tell the story

I am walking around the gun show and see a table with Luger stuff; five holsters and a pair of grips. He must have known that I knew a bit about lugers and he asked me my opinion on prices. I told him, sure, you want me to tell you amounts that it'll sell?

He said, sure.

So, he pulled one nice 1937 brown holster aside (not sure why) - and I looked at each one and told him $150-$250 for three of them. A couple had issues, but overall were nice ones. The brown one was nicer, and I told him to ask $300-$350. This one, I said, well, I think its worth $150, maybe a bit more, but I'd like it and would give you $100 - he said, how about $125? I told him that seemed fair.

My thoughts on this - it will not hurt my feelings if you feel differently....
The rivets to me are classic Finn
Has replacement strap hold down and inner tool pouch replacement

One odd thing and perhaps its normal? Is this pooched out towards the toe leather (see circled picture)

Another odd thing is the length, doesn't the holster seem short? A normal luger fits inside, but it seems that its too short...

OH, and another odd thing is the cleaning rod pouch - why is there a cleaning rod? Added I am sure, but normal?

Vlim · 02-14-2016, 04:59 AM

Ed,

I also think its Finnish. Looks like it originally had the straps for a stock.
I have one that is quite similar.

sheepherder · 02-14-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Another odd thing is the length, doesn't the holster seem short? A normal luger fits inside, but it seems that its too short...

By 'normal Luger' you mean a 100mm barrel? I have or have had several Tikkakoski 120mm Luger barrels, either on a Finnish Luger or separate. It would seem to me that holsters would be standardized to take either length barrel...It's only a bit over 3/4" difference...

Lugerdoc · 02-14-2016, 09:15 AM

In about 1923 the Finns purchased 5000 alpha commerical luger with 7.65x95mm long barrels, complete with surplus LPO8 stocks. Your holster appears to be one that they made to fit on the stock to hold these pistols. It may be that when they converted this holster for belt wear, it may have been opened up at the toe to accomodate the slightly longer standard 100mm PO8 barrel. TH

Thosbi · 03-10-2016, 08:00 AM

To compare a Finnish holster that I have earned some time ago.
Come s with a 120 mm Tikka barrel Luger.

Regards from Germany

Thosbi

Edward Tinker · 03-10-2016, 07:15 PM

ahhh, excellent !

jussi16 · 03-11-2016, 09:00 AM

That holster (Thosbi) looks good. But the cleaning rod is part of the rifle cleaning kit. But a real SA-rod for parabellum is easy to find.

hayhugh · 03-11-2016, 10:18 AM

So here is a case where a short barreled pistol was issued with a shoulder stock. Could a case be made to legally shoot same?

alanint · 03-11-2016, 11:27 AM

Only if both the pistol and stock were marked "SA" and were Finnish issue. You would have a case to register THAT SPECIFIC pistol/stock combination. It has been done before with other oddities.

02-13-2016, 07:18 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,956 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 4,575 Times in 2,111 Posts	Finnish Holster I am sure this is Finnish - but lets tell the story I am walking around the gun show and see a table with Luger stuff; five holsters and a pair of grips. He must have known that I knew a bit about lugers and he asked me my opinion on prices. I told him, sure, you want me to tell you amounts that it'll sell? He said, sure. So, he pulled one nice 1937 brown holster aside (not sure why) - and I looked at each one and told him $150-$250 for three of them. A couple had issues, but overall were nice ones. The brown one was nicer, and I told him to ask $300-$350. This one, I said, well, I think its worth $150, maybe a bit more, but I'd like it and would give you $100 - he said, how about $125? I told him that seemed fair. My thoughts on this - it will not hurt my feelings if you feel differently.... The rivets to me are classic Finn Has replacement strap hold down and inner tool pouch replacement One odd thing and perhaps its normal? Is this pooched out towards the toe leather (see circled picture) Another odd thing is the length, doesn't the holster seem short? A normal luger fits inside, but it seems that its too short... OH, and another odd thing is the cleaning rod pouch - why is there a cleaning rod? Added I am sure, but normal? Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

02-14-2016, 09:15 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	In about 1923 the Finns purchased 5000 alpha commerical luger with 7.65x95mm long barrels, complete with surplus LPO8 stocks. Your holster appears to be one that they made to fit on the stock to hold these pistols. It may be that when they converted this holster for belt wear, it may have been opened up at the toe to accomodate the slightly longer standard 100mm PO8 barrel. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-10-2016, 08:00 AM	#5
Thosbi User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 26 Thanks: 81 Thanked 43 Times in 8 Posts	To compare a Finnish holster that I have earned some time ago. Come s with a 120 mm Tikka barrel Luger. Regards from Germany Thosbi Attached Thumbnails

02-14-2016, 04:59 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Ed, I also think its Finnish. Looks like it originally had the straps for a stock. I have one that is quite similar.

03-10-2016, 07:15 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,956 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 4,575 Times in 2,111 Posts	ahhh, excellent !

03-11-2016, 09:00 AM	#7
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	That holster (Thosbi) looks good. But the cleaning rod is part of the rifle cleaning kit. But a real SA-rod for parabellum is easy to find.

03-11-2016, 10:18 AM	#8
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 898 Thanks: 868 Thanked 514 Times in 276 Posts	So here is a case where a short barreled pistol was issued with a shoulder stock. Could a case be made to legally shoot same?

03-11-2016, 11:27 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Only if both the pistol and stock were marked "SA" and were Finnish issue. You would have a case to register THAT SPECIFIC pistol/stock combination. It has been done before with other oddities.