K date Luger how did they come up with a 'K'?

lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 07:11 PM

how did they come up with a 'K'? Eric asked this in the "for sale" section.

Ron Wood · 08-20-2014, 08:44 PM

And while we are at it, how did they come up with "G"?

lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 08:51 PM

Ron, Something I thought I once knew..but it escapes me. We know they are codes like the S code Krieghoff but were they simply snatched out of the alphabet? Interesting question!

Ron Wood · 08-20-2014, 08:53 PM

Maybe a malfunctioning Ouija board?

sheepherder · 08-20-2014, 09:10 PM

Are K and G the only letter chamber dates???

Ron Wood · 08-20-2014, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Are K and G the only letter chamber dates???

As far as I know. And Krieghoff was just as guilty of that deception as Mauser.

Edward Tinker · 08-20-2014, 10:07 PM

From what I remember there was a chart of certain letters for dates - not just lugers had dates as letters / numbers and then later the 'codes' like S/42 / 42 / byf etc

gov't had things all planned out for the codes / dates

S - Krieg
K - Mauser
G - Mauser

Thor · 08-20-2014, 11:18 PM

beats me. and how about all them Ss!

klaus 3338 · 08-21-2014, 01:40 AM

Jerry, I think you nail it. There is no meaning with the letters. Background was to screen the rearmament after Hitler take the Power in 1933.

kurusu · 08-21-2014, 04:14 AM

Maybe they used the enigma machine to sort them out.

Lugerdoc · 08-21-2014, 09:46 AM

The K,G & S code for 1934-1936, were also used on '98Ks until they went to open numeric dating in early 1936. TH

George Anderson · 08-22-2014, 11:28 AM

The "Q" and "Y" were used up.

Edward Tinker · 08-22-2014, 12:51 PM

Gibson - page 106

Quote:

these letter dates were the result of a gov't directed code intended to disguise the year of production as a means of circumventing the treaty of versailles. The letter designating a specific year was utilized by all manufactures.

Quote:

Speed, Warren, et el
between 1930-34 nothing to show year made (paraphrase) ... however, the firm began using the prescribed letter codes.

I can not find Joop and Dons book to see what they said

Sergio Natali · 08-22-2014, 01:29 PM

Thor

You're showing us another thing of beauty, the photos of your restored Lugers are so beautiful that almost hurt me... :-)

Sergio

Greg B. · 09-03-2014, 11:48 AM

+1 on Thor's Luger.

08-20-2014, 07:11 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	K date Luger how did they come up with a 'K'? how did they come up with a 'K'? Eric asked this in the "for sale" section. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-20-2014, 08:44 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,036 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,247 Times in 1,720 Posts	And while we are at it, how did they come up with "G"? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-20-2014, 08:51 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Ron, Something I thought I once knew..but it escapes me. We know they are codes like the S code Krieghoff but were they simply snatched out of the alphabet? Interesting question! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-20-2014, 08:53 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,036 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,247 Times in 1,720 Posts	Maybe a malfunctioning Ouija board? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-20-2014, 09:10 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,196 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Are K and G the only letter chamber dates??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

08-20-2014, 10:07 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,963 Thanks: 2,064 Thanked 4,593 Times in 2,115 Posts	From what I remember there was a chart of certain letters for dates - not just lugers had dates as letters / numbers and then later the 'codes' like S/42 / 42 / byf etc gov't had things all planned out for the codes / dates S - Krieg K - Mauser G - Mauser __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-20-2014, 11:18 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	beats me. and how about all them Ss! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

08-21-2014, 01:40 AM	#9
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 519 Thanks: 0 Thanked 416 Times in 162 Posts	Jerry, I think you nail it. There is no meaning with the letters. Background was to screen the rearmament after Hitler take the Power in 1933.

08-21-2014, 04:14 AM	#10
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Maybe they used the enigma machine to sort them out.

08-21-2014, 09:46 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	The K,G & S code for 1934-1936, were also used on '98Ks until they went to open numeric dating in early 1936. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-22-2014, 11:28 AM	#12
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	The "Q" and "Y" were used up.

08-22-2014, 01:29 PM	#14
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Thor You're showing us another thing of beauty, the photos of your restored Lugers are so beautiful that almost hurt me... :-) Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-03-2014, 11:48 AM	#15
Greg B. User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	+1 on Thor's Luger.