Has to be third or more conspirator in Boston

[Steve Lempitski]

There has to be a third conspirator, supplying the weapons....The 19 year old is too young for a MA handgun permit, (21 minimum), and the 26 year old brother has a domestic violence conviction in 2009, disqualifying him.....somebdy else had to supply the firearms, ammo, and powder to build bombs.

[alvin]

It must be very hard to apply normal logic on them. Say, they installed pressure cookers and created this world infamous event , should regular criminals quietly flee and hide somewhere? That would be normal logic.... no, they were still loitering in the local area, robbed 7-11, killed a cop, ....

[Steve Lempitski]

Interesting - hijacked a car and 90 mins later only traveled 4 miles. Thank God hes taken alive - way too many questions that have to be answered. Local channel 7 did report older brother had been checked out by FBI a few years ago at request of Russian govt as they claimed he had connections to Chechen extremists. But back to my original point, these two were very heavily armed without any legal way of acquiring any firearms, and with all reports neither had a job or source of income.

[Kitkat041836]

I will bet the one in the they got does not last long.They don't
want him to answer to many questions.He will die before they
can ask him a lot of questions.That is what I think.
Thanks,George

[Steve Lempitski]

How did 2 brothers, neither of whom had a job or source of income, manage to afford college tuition, a Cambridge apartment, both had cars, guns, ammo, and bomb making equipment in the apartment. With the amount of bombs found there was obviously going to be another attack. The cash for all this had to come from somewhere

[lew1]

Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski

There has to be a third conspirator, supplying the weapons....The 19 year old is too young for a MA handgun permit, (21 minimum), and the 26 year old brother has a domestic violence conviction in 2009, disqualifying him.....somebdy else had to supply the firearms, ammo, and powder to build bombs.

I could get any of those items without too much problems. The cost would be more than that found in normal channels. Cash means no red tape. And any of the propsed new laws would not have been a bar or prevent it.

[Olle]

Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski

There has to be a third conspirator, supplying the weapons....The 19 year old is too young for a MA handgun permit, (21 minimum), and the 26 year old brother has a domestic violence conviction in 2009, disqualifying him.....somebdy else had to supply the firearms, ammo, and powder to build bombs.

Just like the anti-gun politicians, you're forgetting the simple fact that only the law abiding citizens will obey the laws. You just have to go out of state, then you can buy it without any problems, stick it in the trunk and bring it home. Simple as that. I can't recall ever having to show ID at the local shows, only a few times when doing FTF transactions. Sad, but true.

[Curly1]

I believe the younger bro had a scholorship to start with.

[Steve Lempitski]

The 19 year old had 2500 dollar scholarship from the city of Cambridge, far cry from the 20000 a year Umass Dartmouth tuition. As I said, neither had jobs or sources of income, so somebody was sponsoring these two. The point was made you could buy this stuff on the street with cash, my point is where was the vast amounts of cash needed coming from. Now the local news is reporting 3 more people being brought in for questioning..

[alvin]

The elder one could be an extremist, that's easy to guess. but the younger one came to the U.S. when he was a small kid. And, obviously, the community treated him very good, granting him $2500 scholarship was an example. How could the younger one also involved into terrorism...

[Steve Lempitski]

In Cambridge MA, is the biggest mosque outside of the middle east....One has to wonder if the "mentor" of these two came from there. Anyway, the elder brother quit his job in 2010, so for 3 years no known source of income.

[John Sabato]

Don't forget these guys have parents... who may be wealthy and not have cared how their kids spent the money they were given...

Now on another matter;

NOTICE:
You guys can discuss terrorism, and conspiracy theories to your hearts content in this forum... but if you start drifting toward ethnic slurs or religious discussions the thread will be nuked. You have been warned. This forum is about LUGERS.
The management.

[Steve Lempitski]

Interesting interview today - according to local Boston station, the wife of the older brother is being interviewed by the FBI. When the Cambridge apartment was searched, a cache of firearms, ammo, bombs, and bomb making equipment was found. I would love to hear how this woman living in the same apartment, either never noticed any of it, or apparently if she did notice, never considered any of it strange behavior.

[alanint]

The older brother was recently charged for domestic violence. I'm gathering the wife knew enough to keep her mouth shut about anything he was doing.

[Steve Lempitski]

Local news says kid was officially charged and read his rights today. Buzz here in Boston was that with kid being questioned without charges or rights given the ACLU was getting ready to step in. One has to wonder why the Feds would even think about possibly introducing a legal issue in a case of such magnitude.

[Curly1]

Here is a long but informative link on why he didn't have his Miranda rights read.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/p...1/legal_digest

Long story short there was a ruling back in the 80's that allows questioning w/o a miranda warning when public safety is at risk.

In this case trying to detemine if there were more terroists planning more bombings or more bombs planted.

According to this article I think it will hold up.

[alvin]

I heard that they threw a small bomb-like thing back towards the police car when they were chased on road. I bet that's not another pressure cooker... Was it a real grenade? Where did they get it?

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski

In Cambridge MA, is the biggest mosque outside of the middle east....One has to wonder if the "mentor" of these two came from there. Anyway, the elder brother quit his job in 2010, so for 3 years no known source of income.

Hi:

I bet he was on some kind of public assistance.

Sieger

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by alvin

The elder one could be an extremist, that's easy to guess. but the younger one came to the U.S. when he was a small kid. And, obviously, the community treated him very good, granting him $2500 scholarship was an example. How could the younger one also involved into terrorism...

Hi:

As a deeply Christian man, I actually prayed for this kid last Sunday, I prayed that his soul would, somehow, find salvation.

How a straight A kid, wanting to study Medicine, could have been talked into such a horrible act, is beyond my ability to logically understand.

I guess it's the animal nature in mankind that can account for such things. His many, many friends all loved him so.

He has ruined the lives of many as well as his own life.

Now the judgement!


Sieger

[Steve Lempitski]

Originally Posted by alvin

I heard that they threw a small bomb-like thing back towards the police car when they were chased on road. I bet that's not another pressure cooker... Was it a real grenade? Where did they get it?

Was homemade pipe bombs being dropped to shake the pursuing Police vehicles. The interesting part about it, according to a relative in MA state police, was that the younger brother was a smoker always carrying a disposable lighter, but when lighting these pipe bombs to throw at the pursuing vehicles, he was using the vehicle dashboard lighter, much more dependable for the type of fuses they had in the bombs. Just a little more evidence of training in these acts.