What do I have here?

Hugo Borchardt · 06-05-2012, 10:12 PM

What's it worth guys? Story is it belonged to Hitler's proctologist.

Edward Tinker · 06-05-2012, 10:42 PM

A personally worked with Georg Luger Spandau that somehow ended up on the Russian contract and then was rushed back and used by the freicorp in 1919

MFC · 06-06-2012, 12:49 AM

It should be on the cover of Don's book, History Writ in Steel.

sheepherder · 06-06-2012, 08:21 AM

A Russian Contract Luger captured by a Freikorps flammenwerfer whilst burning out a nest of influenza-contaminated Communist agitators...Reworked by Georg Luger when he was attached to the Spandau Arsenal...

(I especially like the little "B" on the extractor...A sure mark of authenticity...)

Note - Does it have "EWB" burned into the grip???

alvin · 06-06-2012, 08:32 AM

Luger fancy like this does not come with a Eisenhower signed capture paper?

tx_oil · 06-06-2012, 10:17 AM

Is this part of the consecutive serials set that Mitchell's was selling a few years ago?

lugerholsterrepair · 06-06-2012, 10:33 AM

A good photoshop program would put it all together...

Hugo Borchardt · 06-06-2012, 10:46 AM

LOL Good answers. You guys don't miss a beat!

I had the idea in my mind since that guy posted on eBay the wrong picture of the back of a Luger holster that made it look like it was stamped "P38".

I "photoshopped" the rifles onto the first photo and added the second two photos for good measure. Call it a tribute to our favorite controversial lugers.

The lesson here for me is to actually inspect each gun I receive from someone I don't know. Often I feel like good photos were provided and will not look at it closely. It would be easy for someone to "force match" a number, especially to an internal part, eliminate a grip chip or scratch, or misrepresent the condition of the gun using photo editing software. Or they could be honest and just included a wrong photo.

I don't own any of the items in the photos, though I would like a "Spandau" if I could pick one up for a shooter price.

Have a great day!!!

Clark

sheepherder · 06-06-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt

I "photoshopped" the rifles onto the first photo and added the second two photos for good measure.

Clark -

Did you actually use PhotoShop or some other program??? I use Paint Shop Pro Shareware 4.12 for my Internet pics, but have the full version 10.2 (on another 'puter) for doing serious work. (Web pics don't need high-res).

Still having problems clipping an image off the background...And inserting it in another pic...

Hugo Borchardt · 06-06-2012, 02:59 PM

Rich:

My wife is a pro photographer and has Photoshop CS on her Mac computer. I have the free opensource photo editor Gimpshop (gimpshop.com) on my Windows computer. Though the interface is a little different, I have found that I can do most anything I need to do with Gimpshop.

I also do a lot of photo editing on my iPad 2. Unlike Photoshop or Gimp, which allows you to do 1000 things, the iPad has a thousand free or very cheap (<$5) applications that do one thing really well, like combining images or removing power lines. Because of the touchscreen, you can do a lot of single editing tasks way faster than using a mouse.

Also, Adobe Photoshop Express is free for the iPad, and they have a new Photoshop Touch that I haven't tried yet.

To clip an image off a background and insert it into another pic, like I did with the crossed rifles, I just selected the chamber in the photo of the "Russian" and copied it to clipboard. Then I went to the Totenkopf Luger photo and pasted the contents of the clipboard into a New Layer. I selected the new layer, and used the eraser tool to erase the background around the crossed rifles, exposing the Totenkopf chamber below it. I had to zoom in and make the eraser very small to erase right around the edges of the rifles, and inside of them. It took about 10 minutes.

I learned from my wife to try and setup and take great photos that require no editing. Most of my photo editing is creating joke photos for friends or creating interface parts for computer programs.

Clark Rickman

sheepherder · 06-06-2012, 03:15 PM

I haven't tried 'layers' yet...I did use the option that lets you select the background color as "transparent", but I forgot how to do it...(Although I do recall that I had to make the background all one color before converting it...Like doing what you said; pixel x pixel in close-up then 'deleting' the background and saving it then converting the background color to transparent)...

It'll come to me...Eventually...

Ron Wood · 06-06-2012, 08:19 PM

"Photoshopping" has become a generic term (kind of like calling all tissues "Kleenex") regardless of what software was used to alter/modify a digital image.

sheepherder · 06-06-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

"Photoshopping" has become a generic term (kind of like calling all tissues "Kleenex")...

Or kind of like "Luger", even though it's made by Mauser, Krieghoff, Simson, DWM, or Erfurt???

Ron Wood · 06-06-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by postino

Or kind of like "Luger", even though it's made by Mauser, Krieghoff, Simson, DWM, or Erfurt???

Nah, that at least makes sense. It is bozos that call a P.38, C96 or any semiauto a "Luger" that pushes the limits of generic.

Olle · 06-07-2012, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

I haven't tried 'layers' yet...I did use the option that lets you select the background color as "transparent", but I forgot how to do it...(Although I do recall that I had to make the background all one color before converting it...Like doing what you said; pixel x pixel in close-up then 'deleting' the background and saving it then converting the background color to transparent)...

It'll come to me...Eventually...

I use Paint Shop Pro, and I do the same thing: I use the brushes, fill and other tools to make the background one solid color, set the background color to transparent and then copy and paste it into the other picture. A little detail work with the smudge tool (or whatever they call it in Paint Shop), and it blends right it. The only problem I have with it is that the "set to transparent" option is cleverly hidden somewhere in the menus, and I usually have a problem finding it.

Dwight Gruber · 06-07-2012, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Nah, that at least makes sense. It is bozos that call a P.38, C96 or any semiauto a "Luger" that pushes the limits of generic.

Nambu P-14 Luger.

--Dwight

sheepherder · 06-07-2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

The only problem I have with it is that the "set to transparent" option is cleverly hidden somewhere in the menus, and I usually have a problem finding it.

Olle - When you find it, let me know...

06-05-2012, 10:12 PM	#1
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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	A Russian Contract Luger captured by a Freikorps flammenwerfer whilst burning out a nest of influenza-contaminated Communist agitators...Reworked by Georg Luger when he was attached to the Spandau Arsenal... (I especially like the little "B" on the extractor...A sure mark of authenticity...) Note - Does it have "EWB" burned into the grip??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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06-06-2012, 10:46 AM	#8
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	LOL Good answers. You guys don't miss a beat! I had the idea in my mind since that guy posted on eBay the wrong picture of the back of a Luger holster that made it look like it was stamped "P38". I "photoshopped" the rifles onto the first photo and added the second two photos for good measure. Call it a tribute to our favorite controversial lugers. The lesson here for me is to actually inspect each gun I receive from someone I don't know. Often I feel like good photos were provided and will not look at it closely. It would be easy for someone to "force match" a number, especially to an internal part, eliminate a grip chip or scratch, or misrepresent the condition of the gun using photo editing software. Or they could be honest and just included a wrong photo. I don't own any of the items in the photos, though I would like a "Spandau" if I could pick one up for a shooter price. Have a great day!!! Clark __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

06-06-2012, 02:59 PM	#10
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	Rich: My wife is a pro photographer and has Photoshop CS on her Mac computer. I have the free opensource photo editor Gimpshop (gimpshop.com) on my Windows computer. Though the interface is a little different, I have found that I can do most anything I need to do with Gimpshop. I also do a lot of photo editing on my iPad 2. Unlike Photoshop or Gimp, which allows you to do 1000 things, the iPad has a thousand free or very cheap (<$5) applications that do one thing really well, like combining images or removing power lines. Because of the touchscreen, you can do a lot of single editing tasks way faster than using a mouse. Also, Adobe Photoshop Express is free for the iPad, and they have a new Photoshop Touch that I haven't tried yet. To clip an image off a background and insert it into another pic, like I did with the crossed rifles, I just selected the chamber in the photo of the "Russian" and copied it to clipboard. Then I went to the Totenkopf Luger photo and pasted the contents of the clipboard into a New Layer. I selected the new layer, and used the eraser tool to erase the background around the crossed rifles, exposing the Totenkopf chamber below it. I had to zoom in and make the eraser very small to erase right around the edges of the rifles, and inside of them. It took about 10 minutes. I learned from my wife to try and setup and take great photos that require no editing. Most of my photo editing is creating joke photos for friends or creating interface parts for computer programs. Clark Rickman __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

06-06-2012, 03:15 PM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	I haven't tried 'layers' yet...I did use the option that lets you select the background color as "transparent", but I forgot how to do it...(Although I do recall that I had to make the background all one color before converting it...Like doing what you said; pixel x pixel in close-up then 'deleting' the background and saving it then converting the background color to transparent)... It'll come to me...Eventually... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-06-2012, 08:19 PM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	"Photoshopping" has become a generic term (kind of like calling all tissues "Kleenex") regardless of what software was used to alter/modify a digital image. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction