Rebuilt artillery luger

Horrido · 04-25-2012, 08:02 PM

Okay folks. I am a novice to say the least to Lugers, although I do have one in my collection. I ran across a 9mm Artillery Luger: re-blued, replaced DWM toggle with ERFURT, stamped 1917, bore fair, holster marked 1915...$1700.
Thank you in advance for opinions.

Marshall

sheepherder · 04-25-2012, 08:51 PM

We would love to see pics...

Horrido · 04-26-2012, 06:05 PM

Okay. the web site is
: gretasguns.com
on website, type in the stock number after you click on handguns.

Horrido · 04-26-2012, 06:09 PM

To see picture, go to: www.gretasguns.com click on handguns, and then type in the STOCK # 6747. Tell me what you think. I know you tell too much by photo, but look at description.

Marshall

lfid · 04-26-2012, 06:45 PM

interesting offerings on the website under "older postings" link at bottom of used guns section

I think the more important questions are :
holster original ww1 , holster markings, condition, any repaired parts ?
bore conditon ?
have fine tune sights ?
gunsmith checked the headspace ( since seems toggle asy was imported from an erfurt )?
upper barrel and receiver match the frame ?
frame still have the stock lug ?
rear toggle actually an artillery ?

good luck
Bill

Horrido · 04-26-2012, 07:38 PM

Okay. Copied your post. Now, what would be the dif between Artillery toggle and non Artillery? Also, fine tune sights. Accomplished with sight adj tool? If so, would there be an adjustment screw?
Thanks Marshall

mrerick · 04-26-2012, 08:26 PM

Marshall, there was considerable hand fitting done when Lugers were manufactured.

Switching out a breech block (toggle assembly) could end up changing headspace as well as the sear fit. If done by a competent Luger gunsmith, it would be fine...

Fine tune sites have a small screw that is turned by a very small spanner. Both the front and rear sights can come that way.

There would not be a rear site on the rear toggle of an Artillery...

Marc

Horrido · 04-26-2012, 10:40 PM

Thanks. I know the ladder type sight is on the barrel. I have seen the tool for sight adjustment on GUNBOARDS. I think I will not buy this one. The replacement of the toggle sort of turned me off. I have a friend who I am trying to convince he wants to sell me his DWM 1923 COMMERCIAL, 7.65 mm. marked GERMANY on right side of slide

It's a little rough, but looks to be original.

Thank you again for your time and information.

Marshall

04-25-2012, 08:02 PM	#1
Horrido User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rebuilt artillery luger Okay folks. I am a novice to say the least to Lugers, although I do have one in my collection. I ran across a 9mm Artillery Luger: re-blued, replaced DWM toggle with ERFURT, stamped 1917, bore fair, holster marked 1915...$1700. Thank you in advance for opinions. Marshall

04-25-2012, 08:51 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	We would love to see pics... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-26-2012, 08:26 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Marshall, there was considerable hand fitting done when Lugers were manufactured. Switching out a breech block (toggle assembly) could end up changing headspace as well as the sear fit. If done by a competent Luger gunsmith, it would be fine... Fine tune sites have a small screw that is turned by a very small spanner. Both the front and rear sights can come that way. There would not be a rear site on the rear toggle of an Artillery... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-26-2012, 06:05 PM	#3
Horrido User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay. the web site is : gretasguns.com on website, type in the stock number after you click on handguns.

04-26-2012, 06:09 PM	#4
Horrido User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To see picture, go to: www.gretasguns.com click on handguns, and then type in the STOCK # 6747. Tell me what you think. I know you tell too much by photo, but look at description. Marshall

04-26-2012, 06:45 PM	#5
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	interesting offerings on the website under "older postings" link at bottom of used guns section I think the more important questions are : holster original ww1 , holster markings, condition, any repaired parts ? bore conditon ? have fine tune sights ? gunsmith checked the headspace ( since seems toggle asy was imported from an erfurt )? upper barrel and receiver match the frame ? frame still have the stock lug ? rear toggle actually an artillery ? good luck Bill

04-26-2012, 07:38 PM	#6
Horrido User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay. Copied your post. Now, what would be the dif between Artillery toggle and non Artillery? Also, fine tune sights. Accomplished with sight adj tool? If so, would there be an adjustment screw? Thanks Marshall

04-26-2012, 10:40 PM	#8
Horrido User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks. I know the ladder type sight is on the barrel. I have seen the tool for sight adjustment on GUNBOARDS. I think I will not buy this one. The replacement of the toggle sort of turned me off. I have a friend who I am trying to convince he wants to sell me his DWM 1923 COMMERCIAL, 7.65 mm. marked GERMANY on right side of slide It's a little rough, but looks to be original. Thank you again for your time and information. Marshall