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Old 12-22-2008, 07:39 PM   #1
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Hello to you all,
being new to the forum I'd like to introduce myself. I live in Southern Germany - actually I'm born in a small town about 10 km away from Oberndorf am Neckar. So the "Mauser Werke" are well known to me since my childhood. Always being fond of weapons I naturally joined a local shooting club. My favorite Pistol is a Sig Sauer X-Zone in .45ACP. My wife shoots a S&W 686 (.357 Magnum). Last week I had the oppertunity to purchase a Luger. It's certainly not the classical collectors piece as it's refinished and reblued. Yet it's very nicely done and I'm very fond of it indeed. So I went over to Carl NillS' and spent it some nice wooden grips. It's a Mauser byf 42 with original black bakelit grips. I would like to share some pictures with you.
A merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all!
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:17 PM   #2
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Thomas,
Welcome to the forum. That is a nice looking Luger. Is it a Waffen Frankonia refinished gun? I see that it is loaded (or does it have a snap cap in it?)
Best wishes to you for a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year also!
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:49 PM   #3
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Of all the refinished Lugers I've ever seen, this is the first one I have envied not owning. Very pretty. I really like the wood used in the grips.
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This reminds me one question that I don't know the answer. Could someone help?

Back some time ago, I saw an ad on gunbroker.com selling a Mauser pistol rig. The seller said his father or grandfather "bought it in the Third Reich just before it collapsed in 1945" (not exact words, but accurate enough).

I was wondering.... in that era, could German citizen buy a gun? Or, his father or grandfather must serve in German military to buy that gun? Theorically possible?

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I heard it's a Nazi achievement to require firearm registering in 1930s, the street would become safer and police would be more efficient blah blah (info from unfamiliar site years ago)..... absolutely no interest in politics here..... but could German civilian buy guns in that era?

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:58 AM   #5
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Hello Ron,
Thank you for the welcome. Wow, I'm staggered! you are absolutely right It was done by Frankonia some years ago. Right it's a snap cap. By the way it shoots well :-)

Greetings from Germany
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Hello Zamo.
Thank you for your appreciation, glad that you like it.
I wish you Fr�¶hliche Weihnachten too

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Thomas -- frohliche weihnachten! Any info on my previous question? I noticed you post from Germany.
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Hi and great to see more europeans here on the forum.

Beutifull Luger you got there, and with those grips it is stunning and make me want a refinished Luger to be able to build one like this one.

Congrats. on this beutifull pistol.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:57 AM   #9
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This reminds me one question that I don't know the answer. Could someone help?

Back some time ago, I saw an ad on gunbroker.com selling a Mauser pistol rig. The seller said his father or grandfather "bought it in the Third Reich just before it collapsed in 1945" (not exact words, but accurate enough).

I was wondering.... in that era, could German citizen buy a gun? Or, his father or grandfather must serve in German military to buy that gun? Theorically possible?

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I heard it's a Nazi achievement to require firearm registering in 1930s, the street would become safer and police would be more efficient blah blah (info from unfamiliar site years ago)..... absolutely no interest in politics here..... but could German civilian buy guns in that era?
Dear Alvin,

Private weapon ownership was not forbidden during the Nazi regime, but it was regulated in a way which privileged persons belonging eg. to the NSDAP, SS, Hitler Jugend (Higher ranks).
Regular citizens had to apply for permits:
- To purchase and own: The Waffenbesitzkarte
- To carry: The Waffenschein.

Permit could be withdrawn at any time.
For jews, communists and other persecutees it was virtually impossible to own weapons legally.

So it was certainly not implausible to buy a commercial Luger from a german civilian.

In Germany of today, Weapon ownership is regulated much stricter than it was in the Third Reich,
however it is of course applied on a democratic base not privileging certain segments of the population.

I hope this helped answer your question.

Have a nice time,
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:00 PM   #10
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Hi and great to see more europeans here on the forum.

Beutifull Luger you got there, and with those grips it is stunning and make me want a refinished Luger to be able to build one like this one.

Congrats. on this beutifull pistol.
Hello Ingvard,
nice to meet you and thank you for your post.

Have a fine christmas an all the best for the new year.

Thomas.
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Thomas -- Thanks a lot for the explaination! Just curious, what's the meaning of the magic words "Fr�¶hliche Weihnachten"? I saw Zamo used it, and you looked happy, so I copied.
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Thomas -- Thanks a lot for the explaination! Just curious, what's the meaning of the magic words "Fr�¶hliche Weihnachten"? I saw Zamo used it, and you looked happy, so I copied.
Hello Alvin,

luckily this was no insult but translates into english "Merry Christmas!" So you did well copying them.
So I wish you too a Fr�¶hliche Weihnachten or Merry Christmas.

Thomas
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