gun jam

[iqbal]

Recently my luger has developed a tendency to jam after every second or third shot.I was using chinese made 9mm.bullets but switched to Seller bellot,hollow points but the jamming persists.Any help in solving the problem will be greatly appreciated.

[Sieger]

Hi:

Do you really mean cartridges, as I know of no Chinese or Czech after market components on the market here in the U.S.?

If you are shooting Chinese cartridges, you are lucky to still have a functional Luger, as the ones I have experienced are red hot!!!

The Czech cartridges should be closer to the WWII standard formula, and though plenty hot, shouldn't harm your Luger.

I partially agree with Tac. Cartridge A.O.L. is a vital component to a fully functional Luger. Hollow Point bullets either may or may not work, depending on the shape of the nose of the bullet.

For instance, the Speer 124gr. "Softpoint" when loaded to 29mm A.O.L. will work perfectly, as they mirror the original truncated cone DWM bullet closely enough.

Good luck, but avoid red hot Chinese 9mm if you value your Luger!!!


Sieger

[iqbal]

tacfoley and Sieger,thanks for your valuable inputs.I was using the chinese bullets due to necessity as it is difficult to get your choice of brand around here.However having made note of your suggestions i will try to get the 115gr.FMJ and hopefully the problem will be solved.

[iqbal]

Thanks for the warning. Actually i have used chinese bullets in my CZ75 and also CZ999 scorpion and had no problems so i assumed that they would work fine in the Luger also. We also have 9mm bullets made by H&K(Heckler & Koch) which are FMJ"s. These are being manufactured here under license and i think these should be fine, being of German origin.

[Sieger]

Originally posted by tacfoley
I was standing ten metres away from a gentleman shooting a new Beretta Model 92F with some Chinese ammunition he had somehow acquired. The first shot sounded like a .357Mag, and the second shot blew the magazine out of the well, and the slide/breech-block assemby into more pieces than we could find, after the ringing in our ears had died down. Nobody was hurt, but underwear had to be changed by the shooter, I was told later.

Pulling a round down, we were unable to identify the powder - which was ball-type, blue-tinted and smelled strongly of almonds......

The remaining ammunition was dismantled on the spot.

Beretta refused to comment on the blown-up pistol, and he had to take the hit.

tac

Tac:

I believe the Model 92F uses the same lockup system as the P-38 (which is simply a slight modification of the lockup of a Mauser C-1896).

There have been problems with both cracking slides with hot ammo. I cracked the slide of a byf 43 (Mauser) P-38 by using some "gunshow" reloads my Dad had purchased. Oh well, it was his P-38.

Sieger

[iqbal]

tac,yes i mean cartridges.Over here we call shotgun shells as cartridges and rifle or pistol ammo as bullets.

[Lugerdoc]

Lobal, There have been several report here on the Forum of double loaded Russian "Bear" ammo. I would not consider using it in a Beretta or P38, although I do occassionally fire Uzi SMG ammo in my lugers. TH

[iqbal]

Hi back again with another problem.The safety does not seem to be working.Should i go to a gunsmith or is iy something which can be sorted out by myself.

[Ingvarg]

Originally posted by iqbal
Hi back again with another problem.The safety does not seem to be working.Should i go to a gunsmith or is iy something which can be sorted out by myself.

Hi
First remove the left grip panel, but take care not to brake the corner behind the safety lever when you remove it.
Then you should be able to exam. the safety assembly and se if something is broken or loose.
Should be an easy task to find out and repare.

[John Sabato]

When the safety bar is in the up position (so that the "Gesichert" is visible) the bar should block the outward movement of the rear portion of the sear bar, thus preventing the drop of the firing pin.

If you can make the firing pin drop with the safety bar in this position, then someone has ground down the sear engagement to an unsafe amount of engagement with the firing pin and the sear and/or the firing pin will have to be replaced.

[Sieger]

Originally posted by Lugerdoc
Lobal, There have been several report here on the Forum of double loaded Russian "Bear" ammo. I would not consider using it in a Beretta or P38, although I do occassionally fire Uzi SMG ammo in my lugers. TH

Hi:

Why would you shoot such hot ammo in your Lugers?

Around 1979 or so, I broke an internal sear, in my C-96 Mauser, by doing just that. The C-96 did, however, love those hard primers the UZI ammo always uses.

Sieger