My first Luger 1918 Erfurt Police (w/pictures)

[crotter]

Greetings, I would like to show the forum my first Luger! I am very excited to have finally joined the club!

What I know so far is it is a 1918 Erfurt, with the 1920 property stamp. It is all matching except the mag, and has what I believe are police unit markings that I would love for someone to help me decipher!

S/n: 6857
mag: 7924 aluminum base with eagle/63, blued finish

I see "RC" stamps on the side of the receiver and barrel which I believe means the gun was sent back to the factory for reconditioning at some point.

Also has the artillery notch which I think all Erfurts in 1918 were required to have.

If anyone would like to give me an appraisal on the gun I would be very happy... of course I do not plan on selling it but I would like to know how good of a "deal" I really got!

Here are the pictures:






Marking on front of trigger guard:


Marking above stock lug:


Markings on front grip strap:


Marking on bottom of mag:


Is this a ww2 mag?

And finally, the headstamp from a round of supposed ww2 German ammo I bought for display. Can anyone Id the maker?



Thanks for looking, and please feel free to make any comments/ or observations about my Luger as I would love to learn as much as possible! I can also take as many pictures of whatever part of the gun if you would like to see more!

CHRISTIAN

[tenbears]

Congrats on your first Luger. Your Luger looks like it's loaded in the first picture. The front grip strap markings are for a Weimar Pioneer unit. Appears to had the orginal unit marks scratched out. Which is to bad any 1918 Imperial unit mark Luger is considered rare. The numbers on the stock lug and on the front trigger guard are interesting. I dont think I have seen this on a four inch barrel Erfurt.

[wdavid431]

Wow, that is one nice looking Luger. It is great to see an old warrior look that good after all these years. Enjoy your new pistol.
Do you think you will ever shoot it? Knowing it could damage some numbered part makes firing it a touch and go subject. I have an old commercial Luger but I had to shoot it anyway. Now it is cleaned and put back for good.

[John Sabato]

Mr. Crotter,

Please post your photos by using the upload photo feature of this forum. Access to places like photobucket etc., are sometimes limited by corporations and the photos will never appear to people behind their security firewalls. Posting them here means that their viewability is guaranteed by anyone who can access the forum. I can't see your photos from where I am located.

[Lugerdoc]

I believe that the "numbers" above the stock lug and on the trigger guard are unusually placed Weimar era unit markings. The "RC" on your luger does not indicate a post production rework, just that some under-spefication parts were used in it's production. The notched receiver is a left over one from the 1914 run of Erfurt LPO8 and ofter seen on late WW1 (1916-18) PO8 Erfurts. The dwe/63 mag is a pre 1937 Mauser military. If all parts other than the mag are matching, probably a $1,000 luger at retail. TH

[Ron Smith]

Christian,

The mark on the back strap is a provisional 6th Division mark. 1/Pi.6.49. indicates Reichswehr 1st Company / 6th Pioneer battalion weapon #49.

Should you decide to sell it please contact me. I would be very interested in reuniting it with #22.



Ron

[crotter]

Thanks for all the kind words everyone!

I am sorry about photobucket, that is just a habit from other forums that I visit... I will be sure to host here from now on.

As far as shooting my new Luger, although it will certainly not be a "daily" shooter, there is no way I will be able to let it be a total safe queen! haha

I will probably take it out to the range soon just to verify it is in working order, then just pull it out on very special occasions thereafter.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

CHRISTIAN

[Ron Smith]

Christian in reply to your PM,

Pioneers were the same as our Army Engineers. They built fortifications, bridges, roads etc. There were 7 Pioneer Battalions in the 100,000 man Reichswehr/Reichsheer (post WWI German Army). The 6th Pioneer Battalion was comprised of 3 Companies. The units shown are the Imperial WWI units which the Reichswehr Companies were drawn from after the war.

6. (PreuÃ??isches) Pionier-Bataillon

1st Company: Westf�¤lisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr.7 & 2. Westf�¤lisches (Festungs-) Pionier-Bataillon Nr.24

2nd Company: Hannoversches Pionier-Bataillon Nr.10

Bridging Column: 1. Rheinisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr.8; 2. Rheinisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr.27; & 3. Rheinisches (Festungs-) Pionier-Bataillon Nr.30

[Balder]

crotter,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your first Luger! I'm sure there will be more. I shoot all of my guns from time to time, but I usually replace the original firing pin and extractor. Here are six of mine:

Balder

[crotter]

Nice collection Balder!

And Ron, thankyou very much for the additional info... I will be sure to keep a copy of that with the Luger from now on!

CHRISTIAN

[Richie B]

asb = Deutsche Waffen- u. Munitionsfabriken AG, Berlin-Borsigwalde

Richie