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ViggoG · 07-18-2001, 01:28 AM

Just a educated guess !

from the orientation of the usual markings that appear on aluminum based Mag's , I would say that this photo is upside down , which would make the figure more resembling of a "W" . However I think that it is not . just a feeling but I seem to see more than a simple letter figure .

Can you e-mail me "off line" a high definition scan ,perhaps 700 DPI or more , this may expose what I think I see . Im not saying as to not influence others .

ViggoG

viggogdereng@juno.com

Marvin · 07-18-2001, 06:10 AM

Hugh,

Just a wild guess on my part too, but since the original numbers have been buffed off, and the "M" or "W" has been added, I would speculate that it is definetly post war and may have been done here in this country. I have seen a number of magazines that came in recently (from the Eastern Block) that had the S/N and Waffenamts buffed off.

In addition, the letter appears to be more "modern" type style with no serefs. It just looks like a heavy duty type stamp from a modern US type stamp. I wonder if it may be a past owners initial? Just my opinion.

Marvin

Hugh · 07-18-2001, 08:05 AM

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/magazine.jpg

bill m · 07-18-2001, 09:23 AM

Hi Hugh,

I have no idea what the letter (?) is or what it represents. Normally the letter suffix is at the spine of the magazine, not the front. Most of the time if there is something where your letter is, it is a Simson Eagle, or a Police Number, or Police Property Mark. Your mark does not look like any of these. Sorry I can't be of any help.

Aaron · 07-18-2001, 02:29 PM

07-18-2001, 03:24 PM

Hugh, I agree that your photo probably is showing this mark upside down. It looks to me like one of Ted's "spider bite" rework marks. Tom

Ted · 07-18-2001, 04:15 PM

DAS........ist der Spinnbiss Herr Thor

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/tedtriad2.jpg

John Sabato · 07-18-2001, 06:03 PM

"Mexico" I have never seen one with the mark Hugh has pictured.

07-18-2001, 06:13 PM

The "Mexico" stamped bottomed PO8 mags were triple Ks earliest. Made at least 20 years ago.

Hugh · 07-18-2001, 11:17 PM

Thanks for all who offered opinions, suggestions, etc in attempting to identify the mark on my mag. I now have authenticated identification from a renowed collector of Lugers whos name I shall not reveal for obvious reasons. Aparrantly I am the proud owner of a "one of a kind" mag manufactured especially for Ronald McDonald. This mark was originally the McDonalds "arch over M" but some idiot buffed the arch off when they buffed the serial number off.

David Jackson · 07-19-2001, 02:32 AM

NEIN NEIN!

Thor · 07-19-2001, 02:34 AM

Or Was it Eight....Eight! I never get that right either! lol

ViggoG · 07-19-2001, 02:55 AM

There may be more here than first meets the eye !

Do not the "Arches" seem to end too abruptly to have been partially ground away .

As that would leave the "Arches" tapering off at their ends and sort of fading out .

Could it be that this is all that there ever was of the McDonald Emblem

and the serial no 1 is the first one produced .

Probably not , looks to rough for a Presentation Magazine .

Just thinking again .

ViggoG

John Sabato · 07-19-2001, 07:49 PM

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ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Whatz thiz? Just a educated guess ! from the orientation of the usual markings that appear on aluminum based Mag's , I would say that this photo is upside down , which would make the figure more resembling of a "W" . However I think that it is not . just a feeling but I seem to see more than a simple letter figure . Can you e-mail me "off line" a high definition scan ,perhaps 700 DPI or more , this may expose what I think I see . Im not saying as to not influence others . ViggoG viggogdereng@juno.com

07-18-2001, 06:10 AM	#3
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Whatz thiz? Hugh, Just a wild guess on my part too, but since the original numbers have been buffed off, and the "M" or "W" has been added, I would speculate that it is definetly post war and may have been done here in this country. I have seen a number of magazines that came in recently (from the Eastern Block) that had the S/N and Waffenamts buffed off. In addition, the letter appears to be more "modern" type style with no serefs. It just looks like a heavy duty type stamp from a modern US type stamp. I wonder if it may be a past owners initial? Just my opinion. Marvin

07-18-2001, 08:05 AM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Here is a better picture (EOM) http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/magazine.jpg

07-18-2001, 09:23 AM	#5
bill m User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Whatz thiz? Hi Hugh, I have no idea what the letter (?) is or what it represents. Normally the letter suffix is at the spine of the magazine, not the front. Most of the time if there is something where your letter is, it is a Simson Eagle, or a Police Number, or Police Property Mark. Your mark does not look like any of these. Sorry I can't be of any help.

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Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Mexico? Ntxt (EOM)

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tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Here is a better picture Hugh, I agree that your photo probably is showing this mark upside down. It looks to me like one of Ted's "spider bite" rework marks. Tom

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Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nine.......Nine....... DAS........ist der Spinnbiss Herr Thor http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/tedtriad2.jpg

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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	I have an aluminum bottomed mag that is stamped "Mexico" I have never seen one with the mark Hugh has pictured.

07-18-2001, 06:13 PM	#10
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mexico The "Mexico" stamped bottomed PO8 mags were triple Ks earliest. Made at least 20 years ago.

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Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Mark identified! Thanks for all who offered opinions, suggestions, etc in attempting to identify the mark on my mag. I now have authenticated identification from a renowed collector of Lugers whos name I shall not reveal for obvious reasons. Aparrantly I am the proud owner of a "one of a kind" mag manufactured especially for Ronald McDonald. This mark was originally the McDonalds "arch over M" but some idiot buffed the arch off when they buffed the serial number off.

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David Jackson User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Magalia, California Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nine.......Nine....... NEIN NEIN!

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ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mark identified! There may be more here than first meets the eye ! Do not the "Arches" seem to end too abruptly to have been partially ground away . As that would leave the "Arches" tapering off at their ends and sort of fading out . Could it be that this is all that there ever was of the McDonald Emblem and the serial no 1 is the first one produced . Probably not , looks to rough for a Presentation Magazine . Just thinking again . ViggoG

07-19-2001, 07:49 PM	#15
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