Info Needed On Early Luger .22 Kit in Wood case

Ed Hicks · 10-15-2005, 09:51 PM

Info Needed On Early Luger .22 Kit in Wood case...Fine condition Luger conversion kit with an early eagle atamp in case on side...1930s???

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Any help is appreciated...more images to follow at this Club Photo link...

http://members18.clubphoto.com/ed779...r-2c02-1.phtml

Thanks.

Ed

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910-425-7000Any help is appreciated...more images to follow at this Club Photo link...

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lugerlou · 10-15-2005, 11:41 PM

not quite sure of what you require by way of the info, as you stated it is a conversion kit for the po8 and your dating is correct,late 30's however if police procured it will have police acceptance marking on toggle conversion, manufacture is Erma Werke.

These were used as training units

Vlim · 10-16-2005, 10:07 AM

Hi,

Looks good to me at first glance. This is the early style box with cleaning set. They were replaced by the smaller boxes and the cleaning set was removed from the package, being replaced by seperate cleaning kits for multiple guns.

It's not a postwar Erma set, that's for sure.

This is a period drawing from a prewar Erma sales brochure:

From the army manual (1935 revision):

Aufbewahrungskasten.
Der Aufbewahrungskasten enthÃ?Â¤lt auÃ??er den Teilen des S.E.L. das ReinigungsgerÃ?Â¤t: Wischstock, WischstockfÃ?Â¼hrung, Wischer und ReinigungsbÃ?Â¼rste. eine besondere Einlassung dient zum Aufbewahren des aus der Pistole herausgenommenen Auswerfers. Bei eingesetztem S.E.L. werden VerschluÃ?? und Magazin der Pistole 08 in den entsprechenden Einlassungen untergebracht.
Der Aufbewahrungskasten fÃ?Â¼r die neu gefertigten S.E.L. enthÃ?Â¤lt keine Einlassungen fÃ?Â¼r das ReinigunsgerÃ?Â¤t. Er ist dementsprechend kleiner gehalten.

VII. Stempeln.
Stempelung der S.E.L. mit ZubehÃ?Â¶r nach h.Dv. 464, Teil: Allgemeine Vorbemerkungen, Anlage 1, und Teil 1 II A. 1 a, b u. c.
Einstecklauf: rechte obere Flache des hintergelenks, Bezeichnung von links lesbar. Reicht diese Flache nicht aus, Mitbenutzung der linken.
Aufbewahrungskasten: obere Seite des Deckels in der Mitte (PrÃ?Â¤gestempel).
Nur mit Kompanie- usw. Nr. und lfd. Nr.:
Wischstock: 1 cm vor dem Holzgriff auf der Stahlstange. Wischer und ReinigungsbÃ?Â¼rste: auf dem Gewindeteil.
WischstockfÃ?Â¼hrung: obere flache.

Lugerdoc · 10-16-2005, 01:00 PM

ED, If the serials on all parts match, this is the top of the line, military issue. Worth well over $1K. TH

Ed Hicks · 10-16-2005, 01:15 PM

I just found one on a web site Phoenix Investments...A bit high I think!!!!!
http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/

Vlim · 10-16-2005, 01:23 PM

Original commercial sales price was 22.50 Reichsmark for the version with a fixed sight and 24.50 RM for one with an adjustable one.

Prices have gone up a bit since then

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	ED, If the serials on all parts match, this is the top of the line, military issue. Worth well over $1K. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-15-2005, 11:41 PM	#5
lugerlou User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	not quite sure of what you require by way of the info, as you stated it is a conversion kit for the po8 and your dating is correct,late 30's however if police procured it will have police acceptance marking on toggle conversion, manufacture is Erma Werke. These were used as training units

10-16-2005, 10:07 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, Looks good to me at first glance. This is the early style box with cleaning set. They were replaced by the smaller boxes and the cleaning set was removed from the package, being replaced by seperate cleaning kits for multiple guns. It's not a postwar Erma set, that's for sure. This is a period drawing from a prewar Erma sales brochure: From the army manual (1935 revision): Aufbewahrungskasten. Der Aufbewahrungskasten enthÃ?Â¤lt auÃ??er den Teilen des S.E.L. das ReinigungsgerÃ?Â¤t: Wischstock, WischstockfÃ?Â¼hrung, Wischer und ReinigungsbÃ?Â¼rste. eine besondere Einlassung dient zum Aufbewahren des aus der Pistole herausgenommenen Auswerfers. Bei eingesetztem S.E.L. werden VerschluÃ?? und Magazin der Pistole 08 in den entsprechenden Einlassungen untergebracht. Der Aufbewahrungskasten fÃ?Â¼r die neu gefertigten S.E.L. enthÃ?Â¤lt keine Einlassungen fÃ?Â¼r das ReinigunsgerÃ?Â¤t. Er ist dementsprechend kleiner gehalten. VII. Stempeln. Stempelung der S.E.L. mit ZubehÃ?Â¶r nach h.Dv. 464, Teil: Allgemeine Vorbemerkungen, Anlage 1, und Teil 1 II A. 1 a, b u. c. Einstecklauf: rechte obere Flache des hintergelenks, Bezeichnung von links lesbar. Reicht diese Flache nicht aus, Mitbenutzung der linken. Aufbewahrungskasten: obere Seite des Deckels in der Mitte (PrÃ?Â¤gestempel). Nur mit Kompanie- usw. Nr. und lfd. Nr.: Wischstock: 1 cm vor dem Holzgriff auf der Stahlstange. Wischer und ReinigungsbÃ?Â¼rste: auf dem Gewindeteil. WischstockfÃ?Â¼hrung: obere flache.

10-16-2005, 01:15 PM	#8
Ed Hicks User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just found one on a web site Phoenix Investments...A bit high I think!!!!! http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/

10-16-2005, 01:23 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Original commercial sales price was 22.50 Reichsmark for the version with a fixed sight and 24.50 RM for one with an adjustable one. Prices have gone up a bit since then