Do you have 1914 DWM Artillery 5977b?

[Mike B]

Hi Gang,
Well, here I go again, just like I asked for help in finding my Party Leader PPK (185091K), I am asking for help in locating a DWM artillery. I sold my artillery 5 or 6 years ago at a gun show in Slidell, Louisiana. It bears serial number 5977b. It is 1914 DWM Artillery. I am not sure of the chamber date as I did not record it. Please, if any forum member happens to have it, I would like the opportunity to buy it back or maybe trade for something. Or if anyone happens to know its whereabouts I would sincerely appreciate an email. The Luger has been in my family for years and why it was sold cannot be answered. Your help will be sincerely appreciated. Mike

[Mike B]

Hi Tac,
I am not sure I get your message? If you are referring my using 1914, that is the model of the artillery according Mr. Kenyon in his book "Lugers at Random". Thanks for looking, Mike

[George Anderson]

Kenyon's system needs to be thrown aside. The so called artillery luger was the model "Lange Pistole 08" its pet name is "artillery Luger". The pistol should be referred to as either of the latter names and never the meaningless "1914 Artillery". "Hero" or "cult" writers like Hogg and Kenyon have created so many non existant official variations that a new collector may as well be hunting snipe.

[Big Norm]

Mike,
just to shed some light of the subject. The LP-08 is a model 1914 artillery, but this is a collectors web site and collectors will refer to the their artilleries by the chamber date and not the model number. The exception would be the Erfurt artillery which only has the 1914 chamber date. It is commonly refered to as just an Erfut artillery. Other LP-08's or "Lange Pistol 08's " which would be exceptions would be the Thai and the Persian artilleries which were produced in the mid 1930's. In these two exceptions, collectors would refer to them as Persian or Thai artilleries and never as 1914 DWM's. When you refered to your artillery as a 1914 DWM, the collectors on this forum thought you were refering to a chamber dated 1914 DWM which is a highly sought after and comparatively expensive prize among collectors. Not all artilleries are equal with collectors, so calling an artillery by it model code wouldn't be correct. I hope this helps you understand the temperment of some of the replies. You inadvertantly perked up a lot of ears here, including mine. Its a bit like coin collecting where the date and the mint mark means so much. I hope this helps you.
Big Norm

[Mike B]

Hi Big Norm,
Thanks for your kind reply and the eloquent clarification of this issue for me. I do apologize if I misguided any member in my original post, however, I feel obligated to state that I am by no means a â??new collectorâ?�. Although I am new to this excellent forum, I have been collecting Lugers since 1959. My association with this forum has definitely renewed my interest in my collection. I must say that I have received personal help and guidance from several members and do sincerly appreciate it. I do apologize if I brought some of my antiquated terminology to my last posting, and I appreciate the insight you offered in the proper naming of the artillery.
The bottom line is that I am hoping that through this medium I can somehow locate a very valued Luger that I should have never let go. Thanks again for your help and kind words and wisdom.

Mike

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ah Mike, If you got a few guys excited you done them a favor...Anyone here who has any brains in their head should assume you were using the model number and not the chamber date. Jerry Burney

[Edward Tinker]

I took it that way Mike... just most folks don't call them the 1914, but from what I understand, that is the "older" no offense, designation, so not really wrong, we just have many coffee drinkers on the forum

[Big Norm]

Aw come on guys. We all have seen auctions where they listed all their artilleries as 1914 artilleres. then we have to go through the process of emailing the for the chamber dates and not getting replies. Rock Island does it all the time and they should know better. Besides, there are other newbies on this forum who might not know all the variations of artilleries and we have an obligation to explain it to them in a nice way.

Mike D,
forget about finding your original LP-08. Yo probably won't find it and if you do then the seller will know that you really want it and offer to sell it to you at a much higher price than you could buy a different one for. By the way, you owe me $1,000 consulting fee.
Big Norm

[Mike B]

Big Norm,
Check is in the mail. Just walked into a customer's office and told him I had a Luger in my car that I had just purchased. He said "what is a Luger". I got it out of the car and brought it in to show him. He said " heck, I got two like that; won them in a poker game", but his don't have that long word where the safety is. His have some four letter word like rusk or rust or something. The are not for sale but might trade for a 45 or something. I thing I might keep this to myself. Hey thanks again for all the help. Mike B.

[Edward Tinker]

well, tell him I have a 1927 colt (made FOR Argentina), or a Remington Rand I'd trade him straight across for both, or a Mitchel arms frame / rem rand slide I'd trade him for both...

[Mike B]

Ed,
He is supposed to bring the Lugers to his office in the morning. This sounds too good to be true. I will certainly follow through with an update.

Mike

[Big Norm]

Mike
tell him that I will give him not only a personaly autographed picture of me but also your check when it comes in the mail... even up.( Well, I have to start the negotiating someplace). But to tell you the truth, I don't like Lugers with RUST on them.
Big Norm