My First Luger

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:26 PM

John D,

thanks for your prompt hookup..........
Evening All, from a cold Georgia tonite......I am from over at the great P.38 forum that John runs........kudos to you sir !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

am looking forward to posting and learning more about the intricacies of this pistol........my first couple of days with this piece of history have been very interesting indeed!!!!

Sunday, went to a gunshow in Columbus, Georgia, military town and all, you just never know what will fall out of the woodwork............

the only thing i saw that was worth a second look and then purchasing was.....

1914 chamber date DWM Luger with only one magazine
was in a 1936 dated Gebruder Klinge Weimar Eagle waA 142 waffenamt holster: holster in very good shape with unmarked takedown tool.......

Pistol was all matching, serial # 9679
magazine wood bottom, wood floorplate, number almost indistinguishable but i don't think it matches

..........nickel body, mag in great shape

would rate the blueing at 95-98% but i know thats a subjective thing and everybody has their own opinions.........

Pics as follows and opinions solicited................

TIA, Regards, Paul

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:30 PM

Sorry everybody,

want to post more pics but i can't figure out if you can post more than one pic to a message and if you can , i'll need some help in that direction.....

TIA, Paul

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:32 PM

heres another pic of right side, grips in excellent shape, matching, and really neat to see little cartouches in the panels.........

Edward Tinker · 03-09-2005, 11:32 PM

Welcome Paul!

You can post pictures by either one at a time like you did, or you can see at the top, Upload Photo, then copy and paste into the IMG area and post as many as you like.

Upload, copy, paste each one.

Ed

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:40 PM

Thanks Ed,

appreciate the welcome, have really enjoyed y'alls P.38 forum and am looking to learn and contribute here also............

also was really pleased with the strawing on this pistol, looks like it hasn't faded or discolored any............if it could only talk and tell me what its been doing for the last 91 years

Edward Tinker · 03-09-2005, 11:42 PM

I didn't say, but looks very nice, I like the "halo" around the 8,82

Ed

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:43 PM

another one

Paul L · 03-09-2005, 11:47 PM

Thank you sir,

By the way, what do you mean by halo, have heard the term but unsure as to meaning...................

Regards, Paul

Paul L · 03-10-2005, 12:41 AM

Ed,

i think i figured out your halo comment..............do you mean the bright blue that showed up in the photo.............

a mechanical question for someone to help me with.......the mag doesn't hold the toggle open when inserted.........do i take the mag bottom off and clean and restretch the spring or do i acquire a new mag. spring

TIA, Regards, Paul

Edward Tinker · 03-10-2005, 01:11 PM

Paul, hoped someone would answer you.

A halo is when the dies strike the metal and produces a slightly lighter color. I am traveling, so can't remember the order of striking serial number, etc, whether before blueing or afterwards.

Ed

Lugerdoc · 03-10-2005, 01:14 PM

Paul, Are those import marking that I see below the proofing on the right side of your receiver? I'd first removed the top assy of your luger and check to see if your original mag is pushing up the hold open when empty. You probably should have a new production mag for shooting anyway to save wear & tear on the original. I sell these starting @$20. Also repro grips starting @$15 to save these. TH

Paul L · 03-10-2005, 02:18 PM

Tom,
Have gone over it with a jeweler's loop out in the sun and no import marks anywhere !!!!!
after i got it sunday, went to another collector friends house and he disassembled it and we checked what your talking about and with no top end on pistol the block goes up fine...........after reassemble i used his mag out of his 1916 DWM and toggles lock back fine...........so my apparent diagnosis is a weak mag spring, could even tell the difference between his and mine outside of gun................min only locks back very intermittently also noted that mag doesn't seat up tight to base of magwell....1/8" play or so.............is it posible to restretch mag spring or get a period one to make original function for future display ????????

will contact you to get an aftermarket mag if i decide to shoot it....

TIA, Regards, Paul

03-09-2005, 11:26 PM	#1
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	My First Luger John D, thanks for your prompt hookup.......... Evening All, from a cold Georgia tonite......I am from over at the great P.38 forum that John runs........kudos to you sir !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! am looking forward to posting and learning more about the intricacies of this pistol........my first couple of days with this piece of history have been very interesting indeed!!!! Sunday, went to a gunshow in Columbus, Georgia, military town and all, you just never know what will fall out of the woodwork............ the only thing i saw that was worth a second look and then purchasing was..... 1914 chamber date DWM Luger with only one magazine was in a 1936 dated Gebruder Klinge Weimar Eagle waA 142 waffenamt holster: holster in very good shape with unmarked takedown tool....... Pistol was all matching, serial # 9679 magazine wood bottom, wood floorplate, number almost indistinguishable but i don't think it matches ..........nickel body, mag in great shape would rate the blueing at 95-98% but i know thats a subjective thing and everybody has their own opinions......... Pics as follows and opinions solicited................ TIA, Regards, Paul Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2005, 11:30 PM	#2
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Sorry everybody, want to post more pics but i can't figure out if you can post more than one pic to a message and if you can , i'll need some help in that direction..... TIA, Paul Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2005, 11:32 PM	#3
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another Pic heres another pic of right side, grips in excellent shape, matching, and really neat to see little cartouches in the panels......... Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2005, 11:40 PM	#5
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Ed, appreciate the welcome, have really enjoyed y'alls P.38 forum and am looking to learn and contribute here also............ also was really pleased with the strawing on this pistol, looks like it hasn't faded or discolored any............if it could only talk and tell me what its been doing for the last 91 years Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2005, 11:43 PM	#7
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	another one Attached Thumbnails

03-09-2005, 11:32 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Welcome Paul! You can post pictures by either one at a time like you did, or you can see at the top, Upload Photo, then copy and paste into the IMG area and post as many as you like. Upload, copy, paste each one. Ed

03-09-2005, 11:42 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I didn't say, but looks very nice, I like the "halo" around the 8,82 Ed

03-09-2005, 11:47 PM	#8
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another Pic Thank you sir, By the way, what do you mean by halo, have heard the term but unsure as to meaning................... Regards, Paul Attached Thumbnails

03-10-2005, 12:41 AM	#9
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Ed, i think i figured out your halo comment..............do you mean the bright blue that showed up in the photo............. a mechanical question for someone to help me with.......the mag doesn't hold the toggle open when inserted.........do i take the mag bottom off and clean and restretch the spring or do i acquire a new mag. spring TIA, Regards, Paul Attached Thumbnails

03-10-2005, 01:11 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Paul, hoped someone would answer you. A halo is when the dies strike the metal and produces a slightly lighter color. I am traveling, so can't remember the order of striking serial number, etc, whether before blueing or afterwards. Ed

03-10-2005, 01:14 PM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Paul, Are those import marking that I see below the proofing on the right side of your receiver? I'd first removed the top assy of your luger and check to see if your original mag is pushing up the hold open when empty. You probably should have a new production mag for shooting anyway to save wear & tear on the original. I sell these starting @$20. Also repro grips starting @$15 to save these. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-10-2005, 02:18 PM	#12
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Tom, Have gone over it with a jeweler's loop out in the sun and no import marks anywhere !!!!! after i got it sunday, went to another collector friends house and he disassembled it and we checked what your talking about and with no top end on pistol the block goes up fine...........after reassemble i used his mag out of his 1916 DWM and toggles lock back fine...........so my apparent diagnosis is a weak mag spring, could even tell the difference between his and mine outside of gun................min only locks back very intermittently also noted that mag doesn't seat up tight to base of magwell....1/8" play or so.............is it posible to restretch mag spring or get a period one to make original function for future display ???????? will contact you to get an aftermarket mag if i decide to shoot it.... TIA, Regards, Paul