O.T. AR-15, accessories

schwob · 07-16-2004, 12:45 PM

Hi guys, can anyone e-mail me with a web site that will give me information on accessories available for the M-16,.i.e. scope, mag lite holders etc. I have a son who is going back to Iraq and has requested some additional equipment to what will be issued to him. He has his Beretta and will be issured an M-16A4. This will be his 2nd trip to the Great Sand Dune, many thanx.....Bob <img border="0" alt="[offtopic]" title="" src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 07-16-2004, 01:51 PM

Police Orientated accesories;

http://www.policeone.com/police-prod...ries/ar15-m16/

AR-15 info
http://www.1above.com/ar15stuff.htm

I beleive this is THE website for AR's
http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/

To me; Comfortable padded sling is important, buy 3-6 of them, then if one gets stolen or traded...

Talked to my brother, he knows of a website that has a bunch of old-timer spec-ops and I'll add it in a few.

He also suggested that a nice present would be light cop armor, something comfortable and safe and those wick shirts like we used to wear under our 2nd chance vests.
Bob, appears my boy will be going over for his 2nd tour also within the next 3-6 months...

E-Mail sent Bob, but box is fullllllll

schwob · 07-16-2004, 09:10 PM

Ed, thanks for the input. We can use all the info we can get....Bob

John Sabato · 07-19-2004, 12:28 PM

I agree with Ed... AR15.com is THE one site for this class of firearms... references for all accessories and a great discussion forum too. (of course it is not as good as THIS discussion forum but somebody has to be second best

)

Rest assured that both your son and Ed's is in my prayers... Freedom isn't free, and this latest generation of Freedom's defenders are as courageous and stand as tall as any this country has ever produced! I am proud of them and support them all!

Lawdog67 · 07-21-2004, 10:57 AM

Hey, I have a question or two for those of you with relatives going back to Iraq. I've heard in the online world more than once that 1911 .45 pistols are coveted there in place of the weaker and more-prone-to-jam Berretas. BUT I've also heard that trying to bring one's non-issued firearm back at the end of the tour is a major difficulty.

First, is it true that troops can carry these non-issue weapons? And if so, how do they keep an ammo supply on hand, etc.? Does everyone qualify with the pistol or just officers & NCOs, or what?

And is it impossible to bring back one's personal sidearm? Would your kids rather take a .45 and have to leave it than be stuck with no sidearm (or the next worst thing, a Berreta)?

I can think of a couple of guys I would take up a collection for, to see if I could get a Para or a Kimber or something else in their hands. But I don't know how much stock to place in what I'm reading online.

Thanks,
- David

Aaron · 07-21-2004, 11:17 AM

If you had to leave a .45 over there I have no doubt one of the newly arrived troops would be happy to take it off your hands!

Roadkill · 07-21-2004, 12:52 PM

Two situations, first is my uncle who turned 17 on Guadalcanal, fought all the way to Okinawa, then returned home to finish his senior year at local high school. He told me about a Colt .38 his platoon had. The senior man in the platoon carried it, rank didn't matter. It was passed on when Marine carrying it was killed or wounded.It was mostly used for night outpost duty. Had no idea how many enemy were shot with it at very close range but it had to be on up there. It was an unoffical badge of courage to carry the .38.
He still had it after Okinawa, only him and one other were left of the original 40 men. He had to leave it in China after the war ended.
The other is about a 19 year old I was with on a tank in Vietnam. His name was Charles Birdwhistle. He was half black and half Sixou. He brought a .38 along with him and was quick to use it. When it was his time to DEROS he proudly presented it to his replacement driver on the tank.

Point is in the use of the gun at the time, not if it gets to be brought home or not. It served its purpose if it can be passed on.

rk

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2004, 05:27 PM

But, let us remember, getting the gun over there is a whole lot harder. Although you may want one, ammo and guns will depend on how hard the NCO's and Officers check their troops going over, it is verbotten by army regs to use non-issued weapons. SF, Ranger, etc., can get away with a whole lot more than a "normal" troop, because their NCO's and officers are much more aware of life and death compared to a REMF, although there is no REMF over in the box.

schwob · 07-23-2004, 08:28 PM

Hi guys, I've messaged with my son who is now in Korea but will be going back to Iraq very soon. He has his Beretta mod 9. As of this time he has indicated he doesn't want another handgun, although I mentioned to him (countless occasions, you have 2 hands....fill them both). I'll wait until he gets over and then play it by ear as to if he wants another 9mm. I'll do whatever is necessary to give him an edge and get his buns back home. My thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers......Bob

Edward Tinker · 07-23-2004, 09:36 PM

Bob, send money, it is easy for him to pick something like a Mak, hi-power, or a beretta while over there. Much easier for him, then trying to get a box from you, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ed

Jesse · 09-18-2004, 04:42 AM

You might want to make sure your son has a few bottles of Militec syn oil (www.militec-1.com) This is VERY good stuff! It don't hold grit,dirt and sand where as MI oil will. Also you might want to send over a Phantom flash hider! I'm not sure if he can use this on his service rifle but it cuts the flash down more then a bird cage flash hider(.http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/brakes/yhm-29.asp) best wishes for you and your son.

07-16-2004, 12:45 PM	#1
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	O.T. AR-15, accessories Hi guys, can anyone e-mail me with a web site that will give me information on accessories available for the M-16,.i.e. scope, mag lite holders etc. I have a son who is going back to Iraq and has requested some additional equipment to what will be issued to him. He has his Beretta and will be issured an M-16A4. This will be his 2nd trip to the Great Sand Dune, many thanx.....Bob <img border="0" alt="[offtopic]" title="" src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" />

07-16-2004, 01:51 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Police Orientated accesories; http://www.policeone.com/police-prod...ries/ar15-m16/ AR-15 info http://www.1above.com/ar15stuff.htm I beleive this is THE website for AR's http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/ To me; Comfortable padded sling is important, buy 3-6 of them, then if one gets stolen or traded... Talked to my brother, he knows of a website that has a bunch of old-timer spec-ops and I'll add it in a few. He also suggested that a nice present would be light cop armor, something comfortable and safe and those wick shirts like we used to wear under our 2nd chance vests. Bob, appears my boy will be going over for his 2nd tour also within the next 3-6 months... E-Mail sent Bob, but box is fullllllll __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-19-2004, 12:28 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I agree with Ed... AR15.com is THE one site for this class of firearms... references for all accessories and a great discussion forum too. (of course it is not as good as THIS discussion forum but somebody has to be second best ) Rest assured that both your son and Ed's is in my prayers... Freedom isn't free, and this latest generation of Freedom's defenders are as courageous and stand as tall as any this country has ever produced! I am proud of them and support them all! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-21-2004, 05:27 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	But, let us remember, getting the gun over there is a whole lot harder. Although you may want one, ammo and guns will depend on how hard the NCO's and Officers check their troops going over, it is verbotten by army regs to use non-issued weapons. SF, Ranger, etc., can get away with a whole lot more than a "normal" troop, because their NCO's and officers are much more aware of life and death compared to a REMF, although there is no REMF over in the box. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-23-2004, 09:36 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Bob, send money, it is easy for him to pick something like a Mak, hi-power, or a beretta while over there. Much easier for him, then trying to get a box from you, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-16-2004, 09:10 PM	#3
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, thanks for the input. We can use all the info we can get....Bob

07-21-2004, 10:57 AM	#5
Lawdog67 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey, I have a question or two for those of you with relatives going back to Iraq. I've heard in the online world more than once that 1911 .45 pistols are coveted there in place of the weaker and more-prone-to-jam Berretas. BUT I've also heard that trying to bring one's non-issued firearm back at the end of the tour is a major difficulty. First, is it true that troops can carry these non-issue weapons? And if so, how do they keep an ammo supply on hand, etc.? Does everyone qualify with the pistol or just officers & NCOs, or what? And is it impossible to bring back one's personal sidearm? Would your kids rather take a .45 and have to leave it than be stuck with no sidearm (or the next worst thing, a Berreta)? I can think of a couple of guys I would take up a collection for, to see if I could get a Para or a Kimber or something else in their hands. But I don't know how much stock to place in what I'm reading online. Thanks, - David

07-21-2004, 11:17 AM	#6
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	If you had to leave a .45 over there I have no doubt one of the newly arrived troops would be happy to take it off your hands!

07-21-2004, 12:52 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Two situations, first is my uncle who turned 17 on Guadalcanal, fought all the way to Okinawa, then returned home to finish his senior year at local high school. He told me about a Colt .38 his platoon had. The senior man in the platoon carried it, rank didn't matter. It was passed on when Marine carrying it was killed or wounded.It was mostly used for night outpost duty. Had no idea how many enemy were shot with it at very close range but it had to be on up there. It was an unoffical badge of courage to carry the .38. He still had it after Okinawa, only him and one other were left of the original 40 men. He had to leave it in China after the war ended. The other is about a 19 year old I was with on a tank in Vietnam. His name was Charles Birdwhistle. He was half black and half Sixou. He brought a .38 along with him and was quick to use it. When it was his time to DEROS he proudly presented it to his replacement driver on the tank. Point is in the use of the gun at the time, not if it gets to be brought home or not. It served its purpose if it can be passed on. rk

07-23-2004, 08:28 PM	#9
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi guys, I've messaged with my son who is now in Korea but will be going back to Iraq very soon. He has his Beretta mod 9. As of this time he has indicated he doesn't want another handgun, although I mentioned to him (countless occasions, you have 2 hands....fill them both). I'll wait until he gets over and then play it by ear as to if he wants another 9mm. I'll do whatever is necessary to give him an edge and get his buns back home. My thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers......Bob

09-18-2004, 04:42 AM	#11
Jesse User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW VA Posts: 103 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	You might want to make sure your son has a few bottles of Militec syn oil (www.militec-1.com) This is VERY good stuff! It don't hold grit,dirt and sand where as MI oil will. Also you might want to send over a Phantom flash hider! I'm not sure if he can use this on his service rifle but it cuts the flash down more then a bird cage flash hider(.http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/brakes/yhm-29.asp) best wishes for you and your son.