Interesting Holster Snap...

Pete Ebbink · 05-24-2004, 10:43 PM

...do not know if the holster is as it is descibed, but thought the snap/button looks alot like the ones seen on Dutch holsters and magazine pouches...(???).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...246622648&rd=1

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

George Anderson · 05-25-2004, 06:34 AM

Pete, that type snap also can be found on the scabbards of German trench knives. It also appears on the tool pouch of my recently acquired post WWI artillery holster.

the gunman · 05-25-2004, 08:09 AM

Pete I to have a P38 holster with the same snap mine
was a vet piece given to me with the P38 . The gun
was a junker. It along with the holster were fished out
of a pond in 1945 .Gun completly ruined . Holster not
much better. But it sure has that snap on it.

lugerholsterrepair · 05-25-2004, 11:48 AM

From what I can tell after looking at this stuff for years is that this was a common snap cover design in Europe for half a Century.

I wish I could find an unused box of them in various sizes......

Jerry Burney

Vlim · 05-27-2004, 10:42 AM

Hi,

It's interesting to know that one of the snap button producers was a company called 'DWM'.

They actually used modified primer making machines after 1920, desperate to find ways to preserve machinery from being taken away as a result of the Versailles treaty.

John Sabato · 05-27-2004, 11:43 AM

What an interesting history fact Gerben...

Vlim · 05-28-2004, 09:27 AM

John,

Seeing this particular pattern on pushbuttons, used on different military equipment, I'm starting to wonder if these can indeed be traced back to DWM manufacture.

Production lasted from 1921 to 1924 and they sold to Germany, UK, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the USA. Most machines were refitted for ammo-production afterwards.

George Anderson · 05-28-2004, 04:44 PM

I have a private purchase German trench knife that I know predates 1918. The closure strap on the scabbard is woven and it is kept in place with exactly the same snap. So I am certain that this pattern snap was in use during the first war and I have other items that indicate its use continued through the twenties and into the second war.

Vlim · 05-29-2004, 08:55 AM

Interesting,

Now if we could only figure out who produced them. Would be really nice to know. It seems that DWM's production window was too small to account for these.

05-24-2004, 10:43 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Interesting Holster Snap... ...do not know if the holster is as it is descibed, but thought the snap/button looks alot like the ones seen on Dutch holsters and magazine pouches...(???). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...246622648&rd=1 Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

05-25-2004, 11:48 AM	#4
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05-27-2004, 11:43 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	What an interesting history fact Gerben... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-25-2004, 06:34 AM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Pete, that type snap also can be found on the scabbards of German trench knives. It also appears on the tool pouch of my recently acquired post WWI artillery holster.

05-25-2004, 08:09 AM	#3
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Pete I to have a P38 holster with the same snap mine was a vet piece given to me with the P38 . The gun was a junker. It along with the holster were fished out of a pond in 1945 .Gun completly ruined . Holster not much better. But it sure has that snap on it.

05-27-2004, 10:42 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	Hi, It's interesting to know that one of the snap button producers was a company called 'DWM'. They actually used modified primer making machines after 1920, desperate to find ways to preserve machinery from being taken away as a result of the Versailles treaty.

05-28-2004, 09:27 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	John, Seeing this particular pattern on pushbuttons, used on different military equipment, I'm starting to wonder if these can indeed be traced back to DWM manufacture. Production lasted from 1921 to 1924 and they sold to Germany, UK, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the USA. Most machines were refitted for ammo-production afterwards.

05-28-2004, 04:44 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	I have a private purchase German trench knife that I know predates 1918. The closure strap on the scabbard is woven and it is kept in place with exactly the same snap. So I am certain that this pattern snap was in use during the first war and I have other items that indicate its use continued through the twenties and into the second war.

05-29-2004, 08:55 AM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	Interesting, Now if we could only figure out who produced them. Would be really nice to know. It seems that DWM's production window was too small to account for these.