Okay fellas, what is it?

Brandon · 07-16-2003, 07:11 PM

I purchased an Imperial German Officer's photo album a while back and found a photo with a very interesting Luger holster in it...

Has anyone ever seen one like this before? I know I haven't...

And here is the zoomed in version:

Edward Tinker · 07-16-2003, 07:42 PM

No, almost looks kind of like a Bulgarian or what it really looks like is one of those 45 ACP Argentina holsters?

I lightened it a bit;

Ed

Brandon · 07-16-2003, 07:45 PM

Ed, I don't know, but doesn't that look like a Luger magazine bottom sticking out of the mag pouch?

Regards, Brandon

Navy · 07-16-2003, 08:32 PM

All,
It appears to be a variant Reichs revolver conversion that is mid transition; there were so MANY variants of transition holsters produced to support the war effort that anything like an orderly progression was simply not possible as there was NO plan.

I'd love to have my pal and former comrade in arms. Jerry Burney, weigh in on this as he is the real expert.
Tom A.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-16-2003, 11:01 PM

Tom, Thanks for the compliment but what I have learned has many times come from you. You probably have as many holsters as anyone I know.

I have to agree with Tom here. Looks like a Reichsrevolver holster converted to Luger usage. Not quite the full conversion seen later on.

Brandon, Any dates in the album you know of? Might give an interisting slant on things...

Tom, I wish I had seven thou I didn't need right about now, sounds like one hell of a Navy rig you have for sale...Jerry Burney

ken d · 07-17-2003, 08:58 PM

Could it be a holster for the Benke-Thieman shoulder stocked Luger? Luger-The Multinational Pistol...Page 161.

Regards Ken D

John Sabato · 07-18-2003, 10:47 AM

The Benke-Thiemann Shoulder Stock in question was a post-ww1 commercial item... that was not issued to the military to the best of my knowledge... of course that wouldn't preclude a military person from buying and using their own pistol...

... the photos that I have (see below) of the device show a holster of much different construction...but perhaps someone more knowledgeable about this device can comment...

Here is a short article on the device which unfortuately, I don't remember where it came from other than someone sent it to me...Click on the thumbnail image to see it full size so you can read it...

<a href="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Benke-Tphoto3.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Benke-Tphoto3.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

John Sabato · 07-18-2003, 10:49 AM

Does anyone personally know anybody that actually owns a Benke-Thiemann Shoulder Stock for a Luger?

07-16-2003, 07:11 PM	#1
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay fellas, what is it? I purchased an Imperial German Officer's photo album a while back and found a photo with a very interesting Luger holster in it... Has anyone ever seen one like this before? I know I haven't... And here is the zoomed in version:

07-16-2003, 07:42 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	No, almost looks kind of like a Bulgarian or what it really looks like is one of those 45 ACP Argentina holsters? I lightened it a bit; Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-16-2003, 11:01 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Tom, Thanks for the compliment but what I have learned has many times come from you. You probably have as many holsters as anyone I know. I have to agree with Tom here. Looks like a Reichsrevolver holster converted to Luger usage. Not quite the full conversion seen later on. Brandon, Any dates in the album you know of? Might give an interisting slant on things... Tom, I wish I had seven thou I didn't need right about now, sounds like one hell of a Navy rig you have for sale...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-18-2003, 10:47 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The Benke-Thiemann Shoulder Stock in question was a post-ww1 commercial item... that was not issued to the military to the best of my knowledge... of course that wouldn't preclude a military person from buying and using their own pistol... ... the photos that I have (see below) of the device show a holster of much different construction...but perhaps someone more knowledgeable about this device can comment... Here is a short article on the device which unfortuately, I don't remember where it came from other than someone sent it to me...Click on the thumbnail image to see it full size so you can read it... <a href="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Benke-Tphoto3.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Benke-Tphoto3.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-18-2003, 10:49 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Does anyone personally know anybody that actually owns a Benke-Thiemann Shoulder Stock for a Luger? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-16-2003, 07:45 PM	#3
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, I don't know, but doesn't that look like a Luger magazine bottom sticking out of the mag pouch? Regards, Brandon

07-16-2003, 08:32 PM	#4
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	All, It appears to be a variant Reichs revolver conversion that is mid transition; there were so MANY variants of transition holsters produced to support the war effort that anything like an orderly progression was simply not possible as there was NO plan. I'd love to have my pal and former comrade in arms. Jerry Burney, weigh in on this as he is the real expert. Tom A.

07-17-2003, 08:58 PM	#6
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Could it be a holster for the Benke-Thieman shoulder stocked Luger? Luger-The Multinational Pistol...Page 161. Regards Ken D