Navy Parts on e-Bay...

Pete Ebbink · 06-20-2004, 01:08 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2251936560

Big Norm · 06-21-2004, 05:24 AM

Hum-m-m-m. 30 cal navy toggle. More Importantly, the picture is not of the toggle for sale. Toggle pin doesn't look like the typical large headed toggle pin found on navy Lugers. Foreign seller, so there is no recourse if the product isn't what he says it is. This sale does not have a good feel to it.
Big Norm

John Sabato · 06-21-2004, 10:42 AM

Norm, why do you say that the toggle pictured isn't the one that is actually for sale? It seems to fit the description pretty well right down to the retouched checkering on the left side of the toggle knobs?

All of what you say is TRUE however, but if the price doesn't get outrageous, it would make a good toggle for a Navy Shooter...

PAOLO · 06-21-2004, 11:09 AM

Big Norm
The 06 model Navy don't have the large headed toggle pin you say,but the normal one.The first Navy model with the larger headed pin is the 08 model.The one one Ebay was a 06 one.

Thor · 06-24-2004, 11:37 AM

This toggle train one would be good to use it in a Navy shooter and preserve those original Navys for collections and not shooting. Believe or not, there are many Luger shooters that would like to have a Navy shooter. Somebody thought it worth the money, there are currently 13 bids and it is up to $300

Pete Ebbink · 06-28-2004, 01:13 PM

Is there a vertical height difference in the front sight of a Navy versus a P-08...?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Thor · 06-28-2004, 01:36 PM

There is but I think most of the sight height is taken up in a TALLER front sight block of an original Navy barrel. You MUST match the type of rear sight to the type of front sight to make the combination shoot to point of aim. For instance, I fired GTs parts Navy, it had the proper NAVY rear sight but it had a normal 6" barrel set up for a normal P08 rear sight. Well, it was shooting OVER the 300 meter target with the rear sight set at 100 meters. If fact, it was shooting about 11 inches high at 25 yds. I am told you can take a mauser rifle front sight that will fit into the dove tail of a Luger barrel and file it down to match the elevation correction.
The Navy barrel has a taller front sight block than a regular P08 Barrel.

Pete Ebbink · 06-28-2004, 06:08 PM

Thanks, Ted...

Just one more "trait" for me to look for when I am ready to hunt my first Navy luger...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Thor · 06-28-2004, 06:47 PM

Here is a photo/graphical comparision, top is a real Navy with heighten front sight block.Bottom is a standard height from a 4" barrel.
<a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/NavyFrontsight.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/NavyFrontsight.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>
<a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/StandardP08Front%20sight.JPG" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/StandardP08Front%20sight.JPG" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

06-20-2004, 01:08 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Navy Parts on e-Bay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2251936560

06-21-2004, 10:42 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Norm, why do you say that the toggle pictured isn't the one that is actually for sale? It seems to fit the description pretty well right down to the retouched checkering on the left side of the toggle knobs? All of what you say is TRUE however, but if the price doesn't get outrageous, it would make a good toggle for a Navy Shooter... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-21-2004, 11:09 AM	#4
PAOLO User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cremona, Italy Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Big Norm The 06 model Navy don't have the large headed toggle pin you say,but the normal one.The first Navy model with the larger headed pin is the 08 model.The one one Ebay was a 06 one. __________________ PAOLO

06-24-2004, 11:37 AM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	This toggle train one would be good to use it in a Navy shooter and preserve those original Navys for collections and not shooting. Believe or not, there are many Luger shooters that would like to have a Navy shooter. Somebody thought it worth the money, there are currently 13 bids and it is up to $300 __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-28-2004, 01:36 PM	#7
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	There is but I think most of the sight height is taken up in a TALLER front sight block of an original Navy barrel. You MUST match the type of rear sight to the type of front sight to make the combination shoot to point of aim. For instance, I fired GTs parts Navy, it had the proper NAVY rear sight but it had a normal 6" barrel set up for a normal P08 rear sight. Well, it was shooting OVER the 300 meter target with the rear sight set at 100 meters. If fact, it was shooting about 11 inches high at 25 yds. I am told you can take a mauser rifle front sight that will fit into the dove tail of a Luger barrel and file it down to match the elevation correction. The Navy barrel has a taller front sight block than a regular P08 Barrel. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-21-2004, 05:24 AM	#2
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Hum-m-m-m. 30 cal navy toggle. More Importantly, the picture is not of the toggle for sale. Toggle pin doesn't look like the typical large headed toggle pin found on navy Lugers. Foreign seller, so there is no recourse if the product isn't what he says it is. This sale does not have a good feel to it. Big Norm

06-28-2004, 01:13 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Is there a vertical height difference in the front sight of a Navy versus a P-08...? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-28-2004, 06:08 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks, Ted... Just one more "trait" for me to look for when I am ready to hunt my first Navy luger... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-28-2004, 06:47 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Here is a photo/graphical comparision, top is a real Navy with heighten front sight block.Bottom is a standard height from a 4" barrel. <a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/NavyFrontsight.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/NavyFrontsight.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/StandardP08Front%20sight.JPG" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/StandardP08Front%20sight.JPG" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."