Hit by the Brown Truck this week.

[TJ1]

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[sheepherder]

Looks like a decent # 5 !

I've owned several, and am always amazed how accurate they are!

[gunnertwo]

Please direct the next "Brown truck" to my address.

Nice!

G2

[Mac Cat]

Those look like a Lee-Enfields .303
(a WW-2 model and a WW-I version)

Do Tell !

[Doubs]

Originally Posted by Mac Cat

Those look like a Lee-Enfields .303
(a WW-2 model and a WW-I version)

Do Tell !

The number 5 "Jungle Carbine" was a WW2 rifle. They had a lot of problems with a "wandering" zero and were never able to adequately fix it. Production was eventually stopped.

The number 1 rifle served well into WW2 before sufficient supplies of the number 4 rifle were available to replace it. The flat cocking piece on the subject rifle indicates either an early rifle that was updated or later production. Early #1 rifles have a round knob at the back of the cocking piece.

I once had a 1939 BSA #1 rifle that was the best cast bullet Enfield rifle I ever owned. It was super accurate.

[TJ1]

The #5 Jungle Carbine is a 1947. I would question the source of the wandering zero. I have shot a few of them and have seen sub MOA at 200 yards.

The No.1 Mk3 is a 1942 production from after the BSA factory was bombed in 1949. They were called Dispersal rifles because the the equipment was move to about forty smaller locations and seven primary assembly factories. Thia was along side of the #4 production at the same time.

Cheers

[Doubs]

Originally Posted by TJ1

The #5 Jungle Carbine is a 1947. I would question the source of the wandering zero. I have shot a few of them and have seen sub MOA at 200 yards.

"THE BRITISH SERVICE LEE" by Ian Skennerton speaks at length of the #5 rifle's "wandering zero" on pages 179 & 180. After examining the problem from all angles, it was decided that the problem has inherent in the design. Skennerton does note that the problem appeared more often in some batches of production while other batches had fewer problems. In his post above, Heinz explains the problem precisely.

The #5 rifle was declared obsolete in July, 1947, and on 25 September, 1947, direction was given to cease production. At least one example has been noted with a production date of 10/47 but production stopped before the end of the year.

The #5 rifle grew from a project to lighten the #4 rifle. There was a similar attempt to lighten the #1 rifle and it was designated the #6 rifle. The #6 was intended to be used by Indian and Australian troops as both nations made only the #1 action.

[Heinz]

My understanding is you can shoot sub MOA groups with a gun with a wandering zero. The wandering means when you come back to shoot a day or two later the point of impact has changed.