Commercial P08 for sale: Swinging for the far wall...

DavidJayUden · 08-25-2015, 08:57 AM

Well, I suppose it's worth a try...

http://www.gunsamerica.com//93371102...r-P08.htm?wl=1

dju

Olle · 08-25-2015, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Well, I suppose it's worth a try...

http://www.gunsamerica.com//93371102...r-P08.htm?wl=1

dju

"worth a try"? When somebody wants $5k for a gun and only posts one picture, he ain't trying... Other than trying to tell his wife that "Yes honey, I did put it up for sale!"

sheepherder · 08-26-2015, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

"worth a try"? When somebody wants $5k for a gun and only posts one picture, he ain't trying... Other than trying to tell his wife that "Yes honey, I did put it up for sale!"

I think I can offer an alternative explanation...One that I use for my motorcycles & Corvette. I keep a file of 'For Sale' listings of those items for insurance purposes. I find the highest valued listings I can, carefully dated, and print them out and keep them in my safe. Online ads, newspaper classified clippings, Swap Sheet pages.

It would not be out of line to post an ad with an inflated value and then print it out and include it with your itemized homeowners insurance rider, whether it sells or not.

It is probably something I should be doing for my guns.

Olle · 08-26-2015, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

I think I can offer an alternative explanation...One that I use for my motorcycles & Corvette. I keep a file of 'For Sale' listings of those items for insurance purposes. I find the highest valued listings I can, carefully dated, and print them out and keep them in my safe. Online ads, newspaper classified clippings, Swap Sheet pages.

It would not be out of line to post an ad with an inflated value and then print it out and include it with your itemized homeowners insurance rider, whether it sells or not.

It is probably something I should be doing for my guns.

Hey, that gives me a neat idea: Why don't we start a "forum pool" by listing all our guns at astronomical prices, then assign a bookkeeper who keeps them on file. If somebody's gun is stolen, he can access the database and print out nice "market prices" for his insurance company... Then again, 5 minutes on Gunbroker would probably serve the same purpose...

siegersallee · 08-25-2015, 09:17 AM

Hmmm...I rather don't think the condition warrants the price tag. I suspect you are being factitious, right?

There are far cheaper and higher condition commercial P.08s available. Check out Legacy and Pre98.

Ron Wood · 08-25-2015, 10:54 AM

Only a little more than 300% over priced.

DavidJayUden · 08-25-2015, 11:42 AM

I should have added something like: "Now for your entertainment..."

But it would be interesting to follow. Take an average run-of-the-mill commercial Luger, write a dramatic B. S. history for it, and put a hysterically laughable price-tag on it and see what happens. Remember, he only needs to fool one person.

An interesting lesson in marketing.

dju

kurusu · 08-25-2015, 12:02 PM

Never give a sucker an even break.

Arizona Slim · 08-25-2015, 12:51 PM

I would have a difficult time considering paying much more than $1000. for a 1921 Commercial with no inspection period, not returnable, has the $1,000,000. chip, questionable condition, 1 photo, a major B.S. story as to it's acquisition, from a seller with only one positive feedback, with two sales to his credit, claiming to have for sale a 94 year old pistol that has never been fired. Just my two cents.

Lon

Sergio Natali · 08-25-2015, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

"worth a try"? When somebody wants $5k for a gun and only posts one picture, he ain't trying... Other than trying to tell his wife that "Yes honey, I did put it up for sale!"

Olle

That made me laugh!

Sergio

DonVoigt · 08-25-2015, 03:35 PM

Yeah,
but it was owned by a famous person who was written about by another- all you have to do is
Pay an extra $4k to find out who and by whom!

Sounds like a deal to me - for the seller.

Dick Herman · 08-25-2015, 11:14 PM

The famous person served under Patten. Who the hell was Patten? So much for the accuracy of "the rest of the story."

ithacaartist · 08-25-2015, 11:19 PM

This listing appeared in my Gunsamerica "Wishlist" this A.M. It is so ridiculous I'd considered posting about it, just to give everyone some comic relief.

I think the "Honey, I listed it!" explanation is the most kind.

Everything I noticed about the ad has already been mentioned, so I have only one further comment: The upshot of this ad is that it is likely, indeed, that this seller is pointing his finger at his market to indicate they are idiots.

The problem (for him) with that is that--as someone instructed me long ago--if someone is pointing a finger in this way at someone else, close examination of the situation reveals that the "pointer" has three fingers pointing back at him/herself!

cirelaw · 08-26-2015, 12:17 AM

Remember 1908 was the first military luger and probobly was the longest in the wartherefore the most use. If it were the 1908 commercial version it would not have that many concerns. I bought my 1908 military from a fellow member with unit markings so I'm assured all is legit. The seller is showing you only half the centerfold!! Eric

alanint · 08-26-2015, 09:20 AM

He is also offering a nice, but not particularly rare trench gun for ONLY $6,000, about three and one half times what it is worth. He cleverly words the inspector's mark description to almost sound like it belonged to the General himself.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/943974374...-Trenchgun.htm

I also noted the unusual spelling of his name, "Erich", in the German style.

Sounds like Erich is trying to build a retirement account upon other's ignorance.

DonVoigt · 08-26-2015, 10:24 AM

The sad thing is, someone with more $$ than knowledge or sense may actually buy it!

cirelaw · 08-26-2015, 10:58 AM

It will be his bad marriage!!!

1994Stoeger · 08-26-2015, 01:02 PM

Almost as good as the zero feedback seller on Ebay this past weekend who (against Ebay policies) listed a run-of-the-mill P08 for a BIN of $6,000.

He may wind-up on Gunbroker sometime soon.....

DavidJayUden · 08-26-2015, 05:10 PM

A firearm on E-bay?
dju

cirelaw · 08-26-2015, 05:41 PM

Poor Ed's brain would blow up!! Ed does more than anyone to allow us all a beautiful, informative interactive platform for learning and enjoying daily. He stands at watch daily to balance the opinions, views and behavior of hundreds who also have an opinion or right to be heard. He is our finest moderator and forum luger traffic cop!! Thank You our dear Friend~~

08-25-2015, 08:57 AM	#1
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Commercial P08 for sale: Swinging for the far wall... Well, I suppose it's worth a try... http://www.gunsamerica.com//93371102...r-P08.htm?wl=1 dju

08-25-2015, 09:17 AM	#5
siegersallee User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 293 Thanks: 112 Thanked 58 Times in 35 Posts	Hmmm...I rather don't think the condition warrants the price tag. I suspect you are being factitious, right? There are far cheaper and higher condition commercial P.08s available. Check out Legacy and Pre98. __________________ "Für Gott, Kaiser, und Vaterland" -seeking: Erfrut Mag 1229 (no script)

08-25-2015, 10:54 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	Only a little more than 300% over priced. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-25-2015, 11:19 PM	#13
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,401 Thanks: 7,560 Thanked 2,643 Times in 1,393 Posts	This listing appeared in my Gunsamerica "Wishlist" this A.M. It is so ridiculous I'd considered posting about it, just to give everyone some comic relief. I think the "Honey, I listed it!" explanation is the most kind. Everything I noticed about the ad has already been mentioned, so I have only one further comment: The upshot of this ad is that it is likely, indeed, that this seller is pointing his finger at his market to indicate they are idiots. The problem (for him) with that is that--as someone instructed me long ago--if someone is pointing a finger in this way at someone else, close examination of the situation reveals that the "pointer" has three fingers pointing back at him/herself! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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08-25-2015, 11:42 AM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I should have added something like: "Now for your entertainment..." But it would be interesting to follow. Take an average run-of-the-mill commercial Luger, write a dramatic B. S. history for it, and put a hysterically laughable price-tag on it and see what happens. Remember, he only needs to fool one person. An interesting lesson in marketing. dju

08-25-2015, 12:02 PM	#8
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Never give a sucker an even break.

08-25-2015, 12:51 PM	#9
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	I would have a difficult time considering paying much more than $1000. for a 1921 Commercial with no inspection period, not returnable, has the $1,000,000. chip, questionable condition, 1 photo, a major B.S. story as to it's acquisition, from a seller with only one positive feedback, with two sales to his credit, claiming to have for sale a 94 year old pistol that has never been fired. Just my two cents. Lon

08-25-2015, 03:35 PM	#11
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Yeah, but it was owned by a famous person who was written about by another- all you have to do is Pay an extra $4k to find out who and by whom! Sounds like a deal to me - for the seller.

08-25-2015, 11:14 PM	#12
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 356 Times in 138 Posts	The famous person served under Patten. Who the hell was Patten? So much for the accuracy of "the rest of the story."

08-26-2015, 12:17 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Remember 1908 was the first military luger and probobly was the longest in the wartherefore the most use. If it were the 1908 commercial version it would not have that many concerns. I bought my 1908 military from a fellow member with unit markings so I'm assured all is legit. The seller is showing you only half the centerfold!! Eric

08-26-2015, 09:20 AM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	He is also offering a nice, but not particularly rare trench gun for ONLY $6,000, about three and one half times what it is worth. He cleverly words the inspector's mark description to almost sound like it belonged to the General himself. http://www.gunsamerica.com/943974374...-Trenchgun.htm I also noted the unusual spelling of his name, "Erich", in the German style. Sounds like Erich is trying to build a retirement account upon other's ignorance.

08-26-2015, 10:24 AM	#16
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	The sad thing is, someone with more $$ than knowledge or sense may actually buy it!

08-26-2015, 10:58 AM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	It will be his bad marriage!!!

08-26-2015, 01:02 PM	#18
1994Stoeger User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Almost as good as the zero feedback seller on Ebay this past weekend who (against Ebay policies) listed a run-of-the-mill P08 for a BIN of $6,000. He may wind-up on Gunbroker sometime soon.....

08-26-2015, 05:10 PM	#19
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	A firearm on E-bay? dju

08-26-2015, 05:41 PM	#20
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Poor Ed's brain would blow up!! Ed does more than anyone to allow us all a beautiful, informative interactive platform for learning and enjoying daily. He stands at watch daily to balance the opinions, views and behavior of hundreds who also have an opinion or right to be heard. He is our finest moderator and forum luger traffic cop!! Thank You our dear Friend~~