1920 Luger

Ben Evans · 11-14-2013, 02:21 PM

Gents, came across this one and it was described as an ex military or re issue luger. Being 1920 and along with the Mauser banner does this make this a commercial luger or police luger or just a civil luger?

Again many thanks for any info

Cheers

Ben

Ben Evans · 11-14-2013, 04:32 PM

Just reading the forum threads, looks like it is a Police luger, it seems Mauser made lugers from the early 1900's through to the end of WW2 and probably carried on after the war.

Edward Tinker · 11-14-2013, 04:33 PM

parts gun

the 1920 is a gov't marking (see the FAQ)

Mauser was not making lugers when the 1920 was stamped (a very few exceptions by unit armorers on a G date is knwn, but most were 1920 or 1921 -- IT IS NOT A DATE BTW)

A reissue would almost never not have crossed out numbers before WW2 ended, I would say the crossed out / forced numbering is post war

Edward Tinker · 11-14-2013, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Evans

Just reading the forum threads, looks like it is a Police luger, it seems Mauser made lugers from the early 1900's through to the end of WW2 and probably carried on after the war.

sorry, no

It does have the mauser hump (see FAQ) which was a change in the late 30's (?)

so frame is Mauser, the upper is partly pre-Weimar

What are the markings on the right?

Ben Evans · 11-14-2013, 05:05 PM

Edward thanks for the info, ref the markings these are the only pics I have, so in the gun is a "bitser"?

Vlim · 11-14-2013, 05:16 PM

Judging from the Russian capture marking on the receiver and the X-ed out serial numbers on the replacement parts, this has some properties of a VoPo version. Looks like there is an additional marking under the takedown lever, any chance of a close up of that?

Ben Evans · 11-14-2013, 06:08 PM

Sorry Vim, no more pics

lugersrkewl · 11-15-2013, 01:06 PM

looks like a russian capture given to the east germans and some parts replaced

11-14-2013, 04:33 PM	#3
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11-14-2013, 04:32 PM	#2
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Just reading the forum threads, looks like it is a Police luger, it seems Mauser made lugers from the early 1900's through to the end of WW2 and probably carried on after the war.

11-14-2013, 05:05 PM	#5
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Edward thanks for the info, ref the markings these are the only pics I have, so in the gun is a "bitser"?

11-14-2013, 05:16 PM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,991 Times in 1,205 Posts	Judging from the Russian capture marking on the receiver and the X-ed out serial numbers on the replacement parts, this has some properties of a VoPo version. Looks like there is an additional marking under the takedown lever, any chance of a close up of that?

11-14-2013, 06:08 PM	#7
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Sorry Vim, no more pics

11-15-2013, 01:06 PM	#8
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	looks like a russian capture given to the east germans and some parts replaced