Rare luger question

Ben Evans · 10-09-2013, 08:03 PM

Hi all, just reading through the sticky threads an came across this thread "Difficult Military Mauser Lugers to Find" In it itr lists hard to find lugers and one being a "1937 S42 DE/63. Could this be one I have found for sale on a website?

Cheers

Ben Evans · 10-09-2013, 08:07 PM

Just read the serial number which is 6281 so probably not!

mcg · 10-09-2013, 08:23 PM

Ben,
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the early production 1937 had strawed small parts, don't recall right now at what number they changed. This example is all blued small parts and were produced in much greater quantity.

Mark

Frank · 10-09-2013, 08:30 PM

Ben, the 1937 S/42 you picture doesn't appear to have strawed small parts, so it isn't one of the difficult to find.

Ben Evans · 10-09-2013, 08:27 PM

Cheers Mark, I am new to lugers and dont understand what strawed is. Can you enlighten me please?

Cheers

Ben Evans · 10-09-2013, 08:39 PM

Just googled strawed luger, from the pictures of one I presume the strawed parts are of a lighter colour? So for example the trigger, locking lever, safety catch etc?

Cheers

SteveM · 10-09-2013, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Evans

Just googled strawed luger, from the pictures of one I presume the strawed parts are of a lighter colour? So for example the trigger, locking lever, safety catch etc?

Cheers

Yes, small parts strawed. You find those on Mauser Lugers from mid 37 back to 1934. You can also find them on some Banner Lugers all the way to 1942.

Ben Evans · 10-09-2013, 08:49 PM

Many thanks for that, something else new I have come across tonight

Did they straw parts on WW2 bits only or WW1? The reason I ask when I asked for the spare parts for my Arty luger the guy said I would need a strawed trigger (at the time I did not understand) but that is a 1917 one?

ithacaartist · 10-10-2013, 09:57 AM

Ben,

The particular small parts were straw finished from the very beginning by all manufacturers, from the prototype until dip bluing was used by Mauser, phased in in 1937--Apparently the last general production/military examples from early 1937 are rarer because they were the last of this finish. Contract (banner) Lugers after that could be straw finished, I suppose on spec from whatever entity ordered them. And of course, the Parabellum pistols made by Mauser in the 70s had strawed parts.

Ben Evans · 10-10-2013, 10:08 AM

Again many thanks for the info, I have learn't so much here already

Ben Evans · 10-13-2013, 04:11 PM

Another question ref this luger has it been re furbished? The blue seems black to me like military Suncorite and not the Blue what you see on most lugers?

Again many thanks

Ben

mrerick · 10-14-2013, 11:53 AM

Hi Ben, the best way to tell would be to see if there is bluing in the pits found on the right side of this Luger's barrel. If they are blued, it's been redone.

The magazine serial number was also defaced.

The wear pattern on the toggle looks like it's a salt blued Luger. What was the suffix letter on the serial number (front of frame)?

Ben Evans · 10-14-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

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What was the suffix letter on the serial number (front of frame)?

I will email and ask him

Cheers

Ben

Ron Wood · 10-14-2013, 12:17 PM

Ben,
I suspect that the black appearance of the gun is due more to the way it was photographed rather than a refinish.

Ben Evans · 10-14-2013, 12:28 PM

Again gents many thanks, this one is not a bad price so I will have a go at buying this one me thinks

Cheers

Ben

Nomadr · 10-15-2013, 10:25 PM

From looking at the chart, I believe the scarce part of the 1937 is the straw "with" the frame hump.

Bob

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,400 Thanks: 7,555 Thanked 2,643 Times in 1,393 Posts	Ben, The particular small parts were straw finished from the very beginning by all manufacturers, from the prototype until dip bluing was used by Mauser, phased in in 1937--Apparently the last general production/military examples from early 1937 are rarer because they were the last of this finish. Contract (banner) Lugers after that could be straw finished, I suppose on spec from whatever entity ordered them. And of course, the Parabellum pistols made by Mauser in the 70s had strawed parts. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,139 Times in 1,520 Posts	Hi Ben, the best way to tell would be to see if there is bluing in the pits found on the right side of this Luger's barrel. If they are blued, it's been redone. The magazine serial number was also defaced. The wear pattern on the toggle looks like it's a salt blued Luger. What was the suffix letter on the serial number (front of frame)? __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,119 Thanked 5,286 Times in 1,728 Posts	Ben, I suspect that the black appearance of the gun is due more to the way it was photographed rather than a refinish. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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10-09-2013, 08:07 PM	#2
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Just read the serial number which is 6281 so probably not!

10-09-2013, 08:23 PM	#3
mcg Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 93 Thanks: 270 Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts	Ben, If I'm not mistaken, I believe the early production 1937 had strawed small parts, don't recall right now at what number they changed. This example is all blued small parts and were produced in much greater quantity. Mark

10-09-2013, 08:30 PM	#4
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Ben, the 1937 S/42 you picture doesn't appear to have strawed small parts, so it isn't one of the difficult to find.

10-09-2013, 08:27 PM	#5
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Cheers Mark, I am new to lugers and dont understand what strawed is. Can you enlighten me please? Cheers

10-09-2013, 08:39 PM	#6
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Just googled strawed luger, from the pictures of one I presume the strawed parts are of a lighter colour? So for example the trigger, locking lever, safety catch etc? Cheers

10-09-2013, 08:49 PM	#8
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Many thanks for that, something else new I have come across tonight Did they straw parts on WW2 bits only or WW1? The reason I ask when I asked for the spare parts for my Arty luger the guy said I would need a strawed trigger (at the time I did not understand) but that is a 1917 one?

10-10-2013, 10:08 AM	#10
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Again many thanks for the info, I have learn't so much here already

10-13-2013, 04:11 PM	#11
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Another question ref this luger has it been re furbished? The blue seems black to me like military Suncorite and not the Blue what you see on most lugers? Again many thanks Ben

10-14-2013, 12:28 PM	#15
Ben Evans User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: UK Posts: 94 Thanks: 31 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts	Again gents many thanks, this one is not a bad price so I will have a go at buying this one me thinks Cheers Ben

10-15-2013, 10:25 PM	#16
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	From looking at the chart, I believe the scarce part of the 1937 is the straw "with" the frame hump. Bob