First & second Luger

RalphH · 12-03-2006, 03:28 PM

Greetings, Gentlemen,

Two weeks ago, I bought at a local auction, my first Luger. It was a Stoeger with 6" barrel. Gave it to my wife as a present for putting up with me all these years. A few years ago, she shot a friends Artillery and fell in love with it. I thought she would like the Stoeger. Wrongo!

Got caught up in a bidding frenzy last weekend at a local auction. Bought my second Luger. Might have paid too much. I thought I had better join this forum to gain a little knowledge before I get taken big time.

I bought this Luger for an investment for resale in the future. Now I find I am getting attached to it. ( Like bringing home a lost puppy.) Wife loves it, too. In fact I think she wants to take it over. The trigger cover is a little beat up, but the rest of the pistol is in pretty nice condition. All matching except the extractor and mag. Does this have any collector value?

Edward Tinker · 12-03-2006, 06:22 PM

Ralph, of course it has value

How much did you pay for it? The 9 in the grips designates that it is for 9mm, although this marking has been faked and actually was not intended for lugers but to distinguish 9mm broomhandles versus the 7.63mm broomhandle.

The extractor not matching will cause a decrease in value to most folks.

Ed

Lugerdoc · 12-03-2006, 07:00 PM

Ralph, Even to convert an existing PO8 into a LPO8 wtth a new repro barrel & front sight + installation & testing, would run you about $600 + the cost of the gun converted. So if you're in yours under about $1200 you did OK. TH

RalphH · 12-03-2006, 07:22 PM

Greetings, Gentlemen,

It looks like I bombed on this one. Got over $ 1800 in it. Don't see them to often around here. Guess we will enjoy shooting the old girl until someone comes along that wants it as bad as I did. Thank you for the input.

pipeman45 · 12-03-2006, 08:49 PM

Hey,you may have given a little too much for it. But look at it this way. If you like it and it got you out of the doghouse with your wife, it's worth every penny you payed for it. Enjoy.

George Anderson · 12-04-2006, 04:24 AM

I don't think you overpaid. Just keep on the look-out for an extractor marked "33" and only shoot it with a Mauser firing pin installed.

RalphH · 05-26-2008, 09:35 PM

Greetings, Gentlemen,

I feel better now. I have an all matching Artillery, except for magazine.

John Sabato · 05-27-2008, 09:53 AM

Congrats RalphH... the "33" on the extractor is even in the same font as the rest of the gun... Obviously could be a really good fake, but I DON'T THINK SO... It looks like it was manufactured at the same time as the gun and even matches the finish... a great find.

alvin · 05-27-2008, 04:28 PM

I guess the sear cover might be a substitute. Finish/worn looks a little bit unbalanced. Am I over-sensitive?

whcoyote · 06-07-2008, 10:01 PM

Ralph:

Regarding George's comment concerning keeping a lookout for another Luger with a number ending in 33 and transferring it's extractor to your gun - If you do find one, I'll buy the hold-open out of it. I have a 1916 DWM with serial no. ending in 33 and it has an unnumbered holdopen - so I need one with a 33 on it.
Bob

Dwight Gruber · 06-08-2008, 04:24 AM

Alvin,

Luger trigger plates are made from a different quality of steel from the rest of the gun, and the surface tends to deteriorate faster, and often somewhat differently, from the rest of the gun.

--Dwight

12-03-2006, 03:28 PM	#1
RalphH User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First & second Luger Greetings, Gentlemen, Two weeks ago, I bought at a local auction, my first Luger. It was a Stoeger with 6" barrel. Gave it to my wife as a present for putting up with me all these years. A few years ago, she shot a friends Artillery and fell in love with it. I thought she would like the Stoeger. Wrongo! Got caught up in a bidding frenzy last weekend at a local auction. Bought my second Luger. Might have paid too much. I thought I had better join this forum to gain a little knowledge before I get taken big time. I bought this Luger for an investment for resale in the future. Now I find I am getting attached to it. ( Like bringing home a lost puppy.) Wife loves it, too. In fact I think she wants to take it over. The trigger cover is a little beat up, but the rest of the pistol is in pretty nice condition. All matching except the extractor and mag. Does this have any collector value? __________________ Regards, Ralph Boy, I love these old guns.....

12-03-2006, 06:22 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Ralph, of course it has value How much did you pay for it? The 9 in the grips designates that it is for 9mm, although this marking has been faked and actually was not intended for lugers but to distinguish 9mm broomhandles versus the 7.63mm broomhandle. The extractor not matching will cause a decrease in value to most folks. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-03-2006, 07:00 PM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Ralph, Even to convert an existing PO8 into a LPO8 wtth a new repro barrel & front sight + installation & testing, would run you about $600 + the cost of the gun converted. So if you're in yours under about $1200 you did OK. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-03-2006, 07:22 PM	#4
RalphH User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Greetings, Gentlemen, It looks like I bombed on this one. Got over $ 1800 in it. Don't see them to often around here. Guess we will enjoy shooting the old girl until someone comes along that wants it as bad as I did. Thank you for the input. __________________ Regards, Ralph Boy, I love these old guns.....

12-03-2006, 08:49 PM	#5
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hey,you may have given a little too much for it. But look at it this way. If you like it and it got you out of the doghouse with your wife, it's worth every penny you payed for it. Enjoy. __________________ Dave

12-04-2006, 04:24 AM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	I don't think you overpaid. Just keep on the look-out for an extractor marked "33" and only shoot it with a Mauser firing pin installed.

05-26-2008, 09:35 PM	#7
RalphH User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Greetings, Gentlemen, I feel better now. I have an all matching Artillery, except for magazine. __________________ Regards, Ralph Boy, I love these old guns.....

05-27-2008, 09:53 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Congrats RalphH... the "33" on the extractor is even in the same font as the rest of the gun... Obviously could be a really good fake, but I DON'T THINK SO... It looks like it was manufactured at the same time as the gun and even matches the finish... a great find. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-27-2008, 04:28 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I guess the sear cover might be a substitute. Finish/worn looks a little bit unbalanced. Am I over-sensitive?

06-07-2008, 10:01 PM	#10
whcoyote User Join Date: May 2008 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 75 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Ralph: Regarding George's comment concerning keeping a lookout for another Luger with a number ending in 33 and transferring it's extractor to your gun - If you do find one, I'll buy the hold-open out of it. I have a 1916 DWM with serial no. ending in 33 and it has an unnumbered holdopen - so I need one with a 33 on it. Bob

06-08-2008, 04:24 AM	#11
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Alvin, Luger trigger plates are made from a different quality of steel from the rest of the gun, and the surface tends to deteriorate faster, and often somewhat differently, from the rest of the gun. --Dwight

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