Interesting marking

Edward Tinker · 03-18-2007, 07:52 PM

Have you ever seen an "eagle" like this one?

Has an eagle 6 below, while the marking above, I have never seen and it isn't a misstrike, as both grips carry the same marking.

BogeyB · 03-18-2007, 08:17 PM

Ed,

I have a DWM 1913 with a replacement panel that has a " H " like yours, but has a C/G ( like an Erfurt ) on it. Could these be field replcement panels?

Mike

Ron Smith · 03-18-2007, 08:25 PM

Ed,

The only Eagles that I could find in Costanzo's that ressemble it are all Simson rework proofs. None look exactly like that, but some are close and have a T P mark with them. Maybe a previously unidentified Simson proof.

Ron

Pete Ebbink · 03-18-2007, 08:28 PM

Looks like a 'winged dog bone" eagle...

Ron Smith · 03-18-2007, 09:08 PM

Hey Pete,

Maybe it's a Femur-eagle or "Femurgle ?"

Dwight Gruber · 03-19-2007, 01:10 AM

Ed,

What is the gun it is from? What markings?

The grip eagles look like a variation of one of the eagles associated with TP marks in Costanzo (there is one most like it, without TP, on p.88, #59). I do not credit the Simson connection with any of these eagles, and would hazard a WAG that in this case it portends replacement grips manufactured by Simson (inspected by e/6), and installed and proofed by the Berlin Technische Polizeischul armory. I'd also guess that the H is mostly likely a worker's mark, along with the Ns and the other odd figures.

--Dwight.

Lugerdoc · 03-19-2007, 10:45 AM

The "H" & "O" inspectors marks and the #12 serial look OK to me, but the Weimar eagle and Simson E/6 look a bit too fresh. I suspose that they could have been added by a rework facility, but I would expect these marking to be on the pistol, not just on the grips. Probably spurious. Perhaps the forger wanted to try out the dies before appling them to a metal surface. TH

03-18-2007, 08:17 PM	#2
BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 422 Thanks: 0 Thanked 227 Times in 99 Posts	Grip marking Ed, I have a DWM 1913 with a replacement panel that has a " H " like yours, but has a C/G ( like an Erfurt ) on it. Could these be field replcement panels? Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

03-18-2007, 08:25 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, The only Eagles that I could find in Costanzo's that ressemble it are all Simson rework proofs. None look exactly like that, but some are close and have a T P mark with them. Maybe a previously unidentified Simson proof. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-19-2007, 10:45 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	The "H" & "O" inspectors marks and the #12 serial look OK to me, but the Weimar eagle and Simson E/6 look a bit too fresh. I suspose that they could have been added by a rework facility, but I would expect these marking to be on the pistol, not just on the grips. Probably spurious. Perhaps the forger wanted to try out the dies before appling them to a metal surface. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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03-18-2007, 07:52 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Interesting marking Have you ever seen an "eagle" like this one? Has an eagle 6 below, while the marking above, I have never seen and it isn't a misstrike, as both grips carry the same marking.

03-18-2007, 08:28 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Looks like a 'winged dog bone" eagle...

03-18-2007, 09:08 PM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey Pete, Maybe it's a Femur-eagle or "Femurgle ?" __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-19-2007, 01:10 AM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Ed, What is the gun it is from? What markings? The grip eagles look like a variation of one of the eagles associated with TP marks in Costanzo (there is one most like it, without TP, on p.88, #59). I do not credit the Simson connection with any of these eagles, and would hazard a WAG that in this case it portends replacement grips manufactured by Simson (inspected by e/6), and installed and proofed by the Berlin Technische Polizeischul armory. I'd also guess that the H is mostly likely a worker's mark, along with the Ns and the other odd figures. --Dwight.