Info Needed from the "Swamp"

Marvin · 08-14-2001, 11:21 AM

While being engrossed with work while in the middle of the Everglades, I have found a "K" date East German rebuilt Luger for sale. I have not seen it yet and hope to do that sometimes this week. The pistol is all matching except the barrel has been replaced with a new E. German with Crown/N stamp and an East German military stamp. The mag matches also. The Gothic "S' is stamped on the correct parts. I will keep you posted if I get this one.

Now for my question, what holster would the East Germans have used with this pistol? Would it be a WWII or a post war manufacture one. If this pistol is as told to me, and the price is right, I will buy it, but I do want a holster to go with it. Who can help?

Marvin

John Sabato · 08-14-2001, 11:32 AM

That the seller claims is late 40's or early '50s issue... the photos show it to be in good shape.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1178215868

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This is a German Military German Luger Holster, in near mint condition!!! West German Late 40s to early 50s issue, identical in every respect to the World War 2 WWII, type, complete with the lifting strap, and tool pocket. Has PO-8 Stamping on the back, it has been issued, but is excellent!!!!

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I don't know if this helps, but it is all that I can offer at the moment. It may very well be a modern reproduction that the seller is hawking as original post war. The price is excellent ( at least at present ).

Perhaps Tom Heller might have some insight since he has dealt in these imports...

-John

http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M...ea5d3f/i-2.JPG

Marvin · 08-14-2001, 12:54 PM

John,

Thanks for the information on the holster. At first it did appear to be a repro, but after looking at e-bay, it does indeed appear to be a post war holster. I put a max bid in $48 and if it goes higher than that, I will bow out. I can always find a nice "post war" repro (ha, ha) for this one if I do buy it. In addition, I feel that possibly the East Germans may have used any WWII holsters that would have been available, so maybe a WWII may work for this pistol. I think I have a spare East German tool and all I would need is an East German magazine to have anice rig.

The pistol sure sounds good and I do not have one of the East German reworks. I think they really are a distinct variation since the work was done by a military arsenal and this one was supposed to be issued to the East German military. I will keep you posted on the outcome of the pistol. Thanks again for the help.

Marvin

08-14-2001, 12:54 PM

The strap stitching pattern and magazine pouch shape are reminiscent of the mid-1990s Asian copies. I have never seen a W German 40s-50s P08 holster although they might exist.

Johnny Peppers · 08-14-2001, 07:38 PM

We first started seeing these holsters at the gunshows some twenty years ago. At that time the leather still had new leather smell. I would suspect that the holster is a modern reproduction, as they faithfully copy the original holsters.

Big Norm · 08-14-2001, 07:55 PM

I looked at this holster too. It looks too good to be original. I just wrote it off as a repro. Nice looking though.

Big Norm

Luke · 08-14-2001, 11:04 PM

Last weekend I saw three repros at the Charlotte gun show priced at $85 for black and $87 for brown. Did NOT buy.

What should a good repro bring these days?

08-14-2001, 11:07 PM

Hi, the correct holster for an East German Luger looks much the same as a soft shell P38 but has an enclosed flap for the butt area. The holsters were made to hold either a P.38 or Luger and have tool pouch sewed in side/ Some look like a pebble grain and some have an oval stamp on back with maker mark and 1951 stamped inside. I just purchased one from Tom Heller a few months back. I will dig around and see if I can find an info sheet that appeared in the American Rifleman in the early 60's which dealt with holsters for P.38s and showed one.

08-15-2001, 01:44 AM

Inter Ordnance sells Repros made in India for $27.95.

They aren't bad, but they smell for a while.

I've seen better repros that sell for around $45.

Mike

ESKO · 08-15-2001, 03:31 AM

LOOKS LIKE COBY MADE IN ESTONIA.

PLENTY IN FINLAND PRICE 200-400 FIM (FINIS MARKS)

35-65 US D.

08-15-2001, 12:58 PM

This appears to be one of the holsters that was indeed made in Germany on the original last for Interarms in the 1970s.

08-14-2001, 11:21 AM	#1
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Info Needed from the "Swamp" While being engrossed with work while in the middle of the Everglades, I have found a "K" date East German rebuilt Luger for sale. I have not seen it yet and hope to do that sometimes this week. The pistol is all matching except the barrel has been replaced with a new E. German with Crown/N stamp and an East German military stamp. The mag matches also. The Gothic "S' is stamped on the correct parts. I will keep you posted if I get this one. Now for my question, what holster would the East Germans have used with this pistol? Would it be a WWII or a post war manufacture one. If this pistol is as told to me, and the price is right, I will buy it, but I do want a holster to go with it. Who can help? Marvin

08-14-2001, 11:32 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay That the seller claims is late 40's or early '50s issue... the photos show it to be in good shape. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1178215868 ---------------- This is a German Military German Luger Holster, in near mint condition!!! West German Late 40s to early 50s issue, identical in every respect to the World War 2 WWII, type, complete with the lifting strap, and tool pocket. Has PO-8 Stamping on the back, it has been issued, but is excellent!!!! ---------------- I don't know if this helps, but it is all that I can offer at the moment. It may very well be a modern reproduction that the seller is hawking as original post war. The price is excellent ( at least at present ). Perhaps Tom Heller might have some insight since he has dealt in these imports... -John http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M...ea5d3f/i-2.JPG

08-14-2001, 12:54 PM	#3
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay John, Thanks for the information on the holster. At first it did appear to be a repro, but after looking at e-bay, it does indeed appear to be a post war holster. I put a max bid in $48 and if it goes higher than that, I will bow out. I can always find a nice "post war" repro (ha, ha) for this one if I do buy it. In addition, I feel that possibly the East Germans may have used any WWII holsters that would have been available, so maybe a WWII may work for this pistol. I think I have a spare East German tool and all I would need is an East German magazine to have anice rig. The pistol sure sounds good and I do not have one of the East German reworks. I think they really are a distinct variation since the work was done by a military arsenal and this one was supposed to be issued to the East German military. I will keep you posted on the outcome of the pistol. Thanks again for the help. Marvin

08-14-2001, 12:54 PM	#4
mlm Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay The strap stitching pattern and magazine pouch shape are reminiscent of the mid-1990s Asian copies. I have never seen a W German 40s-50s P08 holster although they might exist.

08-14-2001, 07:38 PM	#5
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay We first started seeing these holsters at the gunshows some twenty years ago. At that time the leather still had new leather smell. I would suspect that the holster is a modern reproduction, as they faithfully copy the original holsters.

08-14-2001, 07:55 PM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay I looked at this holster too. It looks too good to be original. I just wrote it off as a repro. Nice looking though. Big Norm

08-14-2001, 11:04 PM	#7
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	What Are Repros Worth? Last weekend I saw three repros at the Charlotte gun show priced at $85 for black and $87 for brown. Did NOT buy. What should a good repro bring these days?

08-14-2001, 11:07 PM	#8
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Info Needed from the "Swamp" Hi, the correct holster for an East German Luger looks much the same as a soft shell P38 but has an enclosed flap for the butt area. The holsters were made to hold either a P.38 or Luger and have tool pouch sewed in side/ Some look like a pebble grain and some have an oval stamp on back with maker mark and 1951 stamped inside. I just purchased one from Tom Heller a few months back. I will dig around and see if I can find an info sheet that appeared in the American Rifleman in the early 60's which dealt with holsters for P.38s and showed one.

08-15-2001, 01:44 AM	#9
MK Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What Are Repros Worth? Inter Ordnance sells Repros made in India for $27.95. They aren't bad, but they smell for a while. I've seen better repros that sell for around $45. Mike

08-15-2001, 03:31 AM	#10
ESKO User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: helsinki Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Marvin, There is a holster on eBay LOOKS LIKE COBY MADE IN ESTONIA. PLENTY IN FINLAND PRICE 200-400 FIM (FINIS MARKS) 35-65 US D.

08-15-2001, 12:58 PM	#11
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ebay repro holster This appears to be one of the holsters that was indeed made in Germany on the original last for Interarms in the 1970s.

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